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Abortion and Political Realignment (Why Democrates will turn Pro-Life - Self Preservation)
The American Thinker ^ | Jan 6, 2004 | Richard A. Baehr

Posted on 01/22/2004 5:31:22 PM PST by gobucks

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Perhaps this train of thought has been posted elsewhere; but it does indeed make sense. And explains nicely the conservative trending on campuses. Even the sons and daughters of Democrats who were optioned alive are likely to be affected ... to the benefit of the good guys.
1 posted on 01/22/2004 5:31:23 PM PST by gobucks
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To: gobucks
You are breaking a new taboo by even talking about the missing people. The new FR posters will not allow it. I give up. Good luck!
2 posted on 01/22/2004 5:42:33 PM PST by Concentrate
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To: gobucks
This nearly parallels the saying (here on FR) "The Liberals eat their young". Just strike 'eat' and replace it with 'kill'.
3 posted on 01/22/2004 5:44:46 PM PST by capt. norm (No sense being pessimistic, it probably wouldn't work anyway.)
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To: Saundra Duffy; Salvation; xzins; LiteKeeper; WOSG; MontanaBeth; Alamo-Girl
Thought you folks might be interested in this, thus a ping to you.
4 posted on 01/22/2004 5:52:12 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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Overlooks the different rates of birth among the various populations too.
5 posted on 01/22/2004 5:53:01 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: gobucks
This issue has been discussed here before. The thinking is that it is entirely possible that the sheer numbers of abortions have affected voting patterns, immigration numbers, and the labor market in general. Some of us have wondered also if it is possible that the liberals have, essentially, aborted their voting base. But will the Democrats abandon their pro-infanticide positions? I think that will happen only if Satan is feeling a sudden chill. Although, considering how much the RATS worship power, if it would help them to regain it if they abandoned their pro-choice stance, it just could happen!
6 posted on 01/22/2004 5:53:42 PM PST by Enterprise ("You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say.")
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To: capt. norm
Actually, all other things being equal in human reproduction, those who kill the babies that would otherwise have been their "first born" end up with a lower rate of reproduction.

I don't want anyone, not a Christian, not a Hindu, nor a Moslem who is awaiting the next coming of the Messiah to mistake this particular mass murder for the prophesied "killing of the first born" that always preceeds the Coming, but it sure does look like it doesn't it?

Believers will great Him. The Unbelievers will have (un)bred themselves into non-existence.

7 posted on 01/22/2004 5:56:37 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: gobucks
The rats can overcome this phenomena of 'aborting their base' by just creating more than they are losing: giveaways to the "undocumented", use of the dead vote, etc.
8 posted on 01/22/2004 6:09:58 PM PST by C210N
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If more abortions equalled a lower birth rate, then whites and asians should have a high birth rate than hispanics and especially blacks, yet this is not the case.
9 posted on 01/22/2004 6:14:25 PM PST by LWalk18
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To: gobucks
If a female has a right to decide (choice) what happens to her body,
how can females be aborted without a choice (to decide)?

Then only males should be aborted!

10 posted on 01/22/2004 6:19:31 PM PST by jrushing (What goes here? Does anyone know what goes here?)
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To: Enterprise
My thought exactly ... by any and all means, back to power, even if it means dumping THE CORE HISTORICAL PLANK of the last 35 years. Wouldn't be a bit surprised.
11 posted on 01/22/2004 6:26:29 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: muawiyah
I've not made that connection before ... rather disquieting. But, I have read that multiple aborions are common for a given female. Not just one.

OTOH, those might be seen as multiple "first born" abortions technically. Well, you've spun me up on your post, and thanks. I'm going to see if I can find stats on this somewhere. Esp the stats about women who have abortions AFTER having a child. I'm guessing that's a very low number of women ... just a hunch.
12 posted on 01/22/2004 6:31:23 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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Immigration policies in the last ten years have effected the political demography much more than the last 30 years of legalized abortions and will continue to do so.

BTW, Democrats will change their platform on abortions as soon as ( swimmer )Ted Kennedy stops drinking booze.

There is a better chance that the moon will turn to cheese.

13 posted on 01/22/2004 6:34:11 PM PST by JZoback
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There is a better chance that the moon will turn to cheese.

You presume one thing ... Democrats have integrity. My guess is they will sell any fragment of their real or imagined souls to have power.

But, you're likely right. I think this thesis presumes the economy of the world remains stable. Time will tell, but I sense very much a kind of biding their time. If the economic sunny folks are right, however, abortion will be largely illegal w/i 10 years. And democrats may well be the ones helping.
14 posted on 01/22/2004 6:40:31 PM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon)
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To: gobucks
Abortion is evolution's way of limiting the number of people who believe in abortion.
15 posted on 01/22/2004 6:44:54 PM PST by AZLiberty (Howard Dean's been Gored.)
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My guess is they will sell any fragment of their real or imagined souls to have power.

How very true, but the abortion question has moved legally from a "rights question" to a "privileged entitlement" a long ago.

As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think abortion will be a "denied privilege" in my life time.

I got at least (I hope) 30 to 40 years left.

16 posted on 01/22/2004 6:47:23 PM PST by JZoback
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To: gobucks
It might also be because our current culture is more tolerant of deviant behavior.

Suppose there is some genetic component to deviant behavior (such as homosexuality). Such deviant behaviors tend to decrease reproductivity.

In a relatively closed society where people are discouraged from "coming out", deviants are more likely to toe the line, get married and breed more deviants.

However, in a more open society, deviants are likely to live an openly deviant lifestyle and tend to have fewer children.

So an open society which may at first tend to increase the visible population of deviants, may in time tend to decrease the actual population of deviants, as only the average Joe's and Josephine's are having babies.

The girls may be going wild now while the queer guys have their eyes out for the straight guys, but ultimately Ozzie and Harriet will be replacing their a**es with a new generation of College Republicans!

17 posted on 01/22/2004 6:49:37 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: AZLiberty
Great thought, is that original and if so can I borrow it ?
18 posted on 01/22/2004 7:41:22 PM PST by cincysux
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To: gobucks
There is certainly a trend toward pro-life thinking among college students, in spite of the fact that probably 90% of their professors are pro-abort.

One important young pro-life group call themselves Survivors, because half of their age group has been aborted by their parents.

I don't think Karl Rove has woken up yet to the extent of this sea change, but in fact it was evident in the 2000 elections. NONE of the candidates supported by NARAL and Emily's List managed to get elected. And Bill Simon would have won in California if Rove hadn't pulled the rug out from under him. Yes, I know he made some mistakes, but he was stabbed in the back by Rove and Parsky, and never got any of the campaign funding that should have been coming to him.
19 posted on 01/22/2004 7:46:08 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Isnt it rather obvious that abortion at any point is murder?
Or at least the ultimate act of selfishness? I find it hard
to take seriously pro-choice sentiment. The assumption that
pro-choicers have aborted their future base of support assumes how non-existent voters might vote. The premise of
the article on its face is absurd, yet if it means that we have actual conservatives in the whitehouse and congress from now on I'm all for it!
20 posted on 01/22/2004 8:08:13 PM PST by claptrap
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