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Jury says airline not liable in suit over 'racist rhyme'
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Posted on 01/22/2004 7:23:30 AM PST by Republican Red

KANSAS CITY, Kan. -- Southwest Airlines is not liable for a flight attendant who upset two black passengers by using a version of a rhyme with a racist history, a jury determined Wednesday.

The two passengers, sisters Louise Sawyer and Grace Fuller, were heading home from a Las Vegas vacation nearly three years ago when flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff, trying to get passengers to sit down, said over the intercom, "Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; pick a seat, we gotta go."

The sisters say the rhyme was directed at them and was a reference to a racist version that dates to before the civil rights era.

The sisters filed a federal lawsuit against the airline claiming they were discriminated against and suffered physical and emotional distress. Judge Kathryn H. Vratil ruled last year that the case could proceed to trial, and it began on Tuesday before an eight-member jury.

The jury returned its verdict in favor of the airline Wednesday evening.

Attorney Scott A. Wissel, representing the two women, said in his opening statement that they were humiliated and degraded when Cundiff used the phrase, and decided to sue out of frustration after Southwest Airlines would not take their complaint seriously.

Cundiff, who is white, testified that she had used the rhyme before on other flights. She said Southwest Airlines encourages employees to use humor to help make flights more fun and memorable.

She testified that she was confused why someone would complain about the rhyme. It was not until later that she learned about the racist version, she said.


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To: Xenalyte
ROFLMAO
61 posted on 01/22/2004 8:28:30 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Don't worry, this won't hurt a bit. MWAHAHAHAHA.)
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To: MississippiMan
Punitives should go into a fund to pay attorney fees of winning parties. Instead of just being a lottery for attorneys.

After a certain number of suits where the attorney has been shown to be frivolous, that attorney must pay, on an ascending scale, fines.
62 posted on 01/22/2004 8:29:54 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Republican Red
IF SW chooses to roll over and play dead on this most flagrant example of a flagrant lawsuit, it deserves to pay what it has spent and whatever it will pay in the future for similar adventures.

And I can guartantee you at the 100%-level that SW will not be passing such costs along to me....

63 posted on 01/22/2004 8:30:48 AM PST by tracer
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To: mountaineer
He also had a problem with Rickey Williams, Willie Mays, Whitney Houston and Barry White.

Are you familiar with the Bloodhound Gang? They did a remix of that old hip-hop song "Fire Water Burn," the one about the roof being on fire, and one of my favorite couplets is:

Yo yo - this hard-core ghetto gangster image takes a lot of practice
I'm not black like Barry White - no, I am white like Frank Black is
64 posted on 01/22/2004 8:32:49 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: ItsTheMediaStupid
Actually, if you examine a tigers paw, they do have toes. Each claw is on a separate toe. Second, which version really came first? Is it possible the Tiger came first and was the changed to the derogatory version. I find it difficult to believe anyone that took the time to create a nursery rhyme would also try to degrade a race. IMHO.
65 posted on 01/22/2004 8:33:25 AM PST by MPJackal (Is it being paranoid if people really are out to get you?)
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To: MississippiMan
"I agree, but there'd have to be some sort of mechanism to determine frivolity, or tons of legitimate lawsuits would never occur, on fear of losing."

Ever hear of a "trial by jury?"

66 posted on 01/22/2004 8:33:36 AM PST by tracer
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To: Republican Red





Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2004


Airline not liable in suit over rhyme
Jury rules quickly in discrimination case


DAVID EULITT/The Kansas City Star
Flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff (right) said Wednesday she was relieved by the jury's verdict and thought it was fair and just. She and boyfriend Louis Chabai (center) talked outside the courthouse.

A Southwest Airlines flight attendant's variation of the “Eenie, meenie, minie, moe” rhyme did not discriminate against two black passengers, a federal jury decided Wednesday.

The eight-member jury in Kansas City, Kan., deliberated for less than an hour before ruling in favor of the airline.

Louise Sawyer of Merriam and Grace Fuller of Lenexa, who are siblings, had sued the airline over an incident on a February 2001 flight from Las Vegas to Kansas City.

As the two women struggled to find seats on the crowded plane, Southwest Airlines flight attendant Jennifer Cundiff said over the intercom, “Eenie, meenie, minie, moe; pick a seat, we gotta go.”

Sawyer, 46, and Fuller, 49, said the rhyme immediately struck them as a reference to an older, racist version in which the first line is followed by “catch a n--- by the toe.”

The two women testified at the two-day trial that they were embarrassed, humiliated and frustrated. Fuller testified that she suffered a small seizure on the flight home, which was triggered by the remark. Later at home, she said she had a grand mal seizure and was bedridden for three days.

Cundiff, 25, testified that she never had heard the racist version and that she was only trying to inject humor to make the flight more enjoyable and memorable. She wanted passengers to take their seats so the plane could leave.

Outside the courtroom, Fuller said there was enough evidence for the jury to find in favor of her and her sister.

“There is no justice in America for blacks … ” Fuller said.

“It's a shame that the jury pool we had to draw from did not have one black and not one minority. Something has to be done to make sure there is justice in America for blacks.”

The jury consisted of seven white men and a white woman.

Scott A. Wissel, a Kansas City lawyer who represented Sawyer and Fuller, declined to comment about the verdict.

John W. Cowden, a Kansas City lawyer representing Southwest Airlines, said he and his client were pleased with the jury's finding.

“All along, Southwest Airlines has contended that it did not intentionally discriminate against the two ladies,” he said. “We are pleased the jury agreed and vindicated Southwest and its flight attendant, Jennifer Cundiff.”

Cundiff, who lives near Dallas, said she was relieved and thought that the jury had reached a fair and just verdict. She maintained that the rhyme had been directed at several passengers, not just Sawyer and Fuller.

“When I first heard they complained about what I said, I didn't know what they were talking about,” said Cundiff, who, at the time, had been an attendant for eight months.

While Cundiff said she probably would never use the rhyme again, “I will not tell anyone not to say it.”

In court testimony, the two women said they originally had sent letters to Southwest Airlines complaining about the use of the rhyme and how they thought it was racially offensive. They wanted Southwest Airlines to stop using it.

However, they said they decided to file their lawsuit out of frustration when Southwest Airlines did not take their complaints seriously.

In their lawsuit, they alleged that Southwest violated a 1981 civil rights law that prevents businesses from discriminating against minority customers by treating them differently from white customers for the same service. They contended that they suffered physical and emotional distress because of the rhyme.

Wissel said in his closing argument that Cundiff's use of the rhyme was tantamount to a racial slur.

He said the action prevented his clients from enjoying the same privileges and conditions as the white passengers.

Cowden, on the other hand, argued that Cundiff's use of the rhyme was an innocent attempt at humor.

“At best, this is an argument that something is not politically correct,” Cowden told jurors. “At worst, it is nothing. Certainly, this does not support a violation of a federal statute, because these words were spoken.”

To reach Robert A. Cronkleton, Wyandotte County police

and courts reporter, call

(816) 234-5994 or send e-mail to bcronkleton@kcstar.com.


67 posted on 01/22/2004 8:34:08 AM PST by TroutStalker (Whip me, strip me, tie me, fly me -- catch & release)
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To: MPJackal
Only other tigers can call tigers...tigers.

Like: "TIGER YOU CRAZY!"
68 posted on 01/22/2004 8:35:26 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Bluntpoint
Tooooo funny. So what do we call them?
69 posted on 01/22/2004 8:37:09 AM PST by MPJackal (Is it being paranoid if people really are out to get you?)
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To: mountaineer
Bwhahahahahahaha

I just spit my water all over my keyboard!
70 posted on 01/22/2004 8:38:10 AM PST by lupie
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To: MPJackal
Well, it used to "Tigroes." Then "Stripes." Now its "Feline Americans."
71 posted on 01/22/2004 8:39:47 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: mountaineer
"Catch a tiger by the toe...."

Horrors! Don't ever let PETA hear about that!

72 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:15 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Republican Red
Much agree. Though I think the vulnerability should be stiffer for frivolous TYPES of suits.

There should still be some reasonable freedom and support for poor people to sue major corporations for serious damage situations without that kind of vulnerability.

IMHO.

73 posted on 01/22/2004 8:45:16 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Yes. I'm 56. Mother used the N word in teaching that rhyme years ago!
74 posted on 01/22/2004 8:46:27 AM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: 50sDad
I learned it as "Catch a tiger by the toe" and didn't find out about the "other" version until high school.

Same here. These two were just looking to hit the jackpot.

75 posted on 01/22/2004 8:50:24 AM PST by Land of the Free 04
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To: conserv13
I don't blame them, I wouldn't sit in a room named after anything from Dungeons and Dragons either! Star Trek, maybe.
Thermian Wallpaper

Galaxy Quest


76 posted on 01/22/2004 8:54:06 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (2004: The Neocons vs. The Neocoms)
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To: Bluntpoint
After a certain number of suits where the attorney has been shown to be frivolous, that attorney must pay, on an ascending scale, fines.

Might work!

MM

77 posted on 01/22/2004 8:54:31 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Oh come on. I have to admit that we used the N-word version when the folks weren't around and the Tiger version when they were. I was originally taught the tiger version.

Even still, it's ridiculous. It's a way to choose something randomly. How would one catch an African-American person by the toe? And what would one do with them if one did? How does that help make a random choice?

And these complainants. Have they never used the N-word? Why is it racist and derogatory if whites use it but not if blacks do? The word is a dialectical version of the Spanish word "Negro" (pronounced Nay-gro) which was the accepted description of the race at that time. Would the Italian "Nero" be better? Or the French "Noir"? I knew a French guy who's best friend was African-American and he called him "Noir-ee" all the time and the guy didn't mind. I thought "Black was what the African-American community wanted to be called. Oh, then it became "Afro-American". It would seem that the rules keep being changed to perpetuate a continual game of "gotcha" (not by the toe).

THis is childish. It needs to stop. The above are some questions that need to be asked and answered any time there is a spurious charge of racism by someone on the make.
78 posted on 01/22/2004 8:55:26 AM PST by johnb838 (Write-In Tancredo in your Republican Primary)
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To: tracer
Ever hear of a "trial by jury?"

No, what's that?

Sheesh.

MM

79 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:14 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Jeff Chandler
One of my favorite movies! Thanks
80 posted on 01/22/2004 9:00:08 AM PST by conserv13
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