So you think George W. Bush is not a conservative?

SOTU transcript ^ | 1/22/04

[carton253]

They will freeze one's bank accounts for a couple weeks over transfers of one's money they consider overly large.

And has this happen to you? Or to anyone you know?

[exmarine]

I find it quite revealing that the only answer these Bushbots have to our VALID principled gripes is: "Go ahead throw your vote to a democrat." It shows the abject weakness of their position - they are unable to defend Bush on the issues. It's a RED HERRING.

Just keep demanding that they address the issues - that's what I do.

[MEG33]

I am trying positive thinking.I truly want you to be a Biker 4 Bush.It's for the sake of the country...in my opinion.

[zook]

I've made my opinion clear; I don't think this is a place for people to advocate not voting for Bush. It's up to Jim to decide what he wants to do.

[Southack]

"Abortion wasn't banned - p.b. abortion ban was killed the next day by the federal courts (and will be finally killed in USSC) and Mr. Bush doesn't appear to have any stomach for taking on the courts."

Bush is President, not King Almighty. He can't just overturn federal courts at will.

And you've missed my point. I gave you a test to find Presidential candidates who would act conservatively on issues such as abortion and taxes and building our missile defenses. Clearly my litmus test correctly identifies President Bush as someone who will sign legislation to ban abortion.

That courts will attack such legislation is beyond the scope of any one President.

However, it will help for President Bush to be the one appointing the next 5 Supreme Court Justices over the next 5 years, for that very reason...

[BJClinton]

The Dem congress did for Reagan and we weren't in a "hot" war.

LOL. Um, the Dems boosted spending on every feel-good social program they could with Reagan. And Reagan had to go along with it if he wanted to get his military increases and tax-cuts through.

[BureaucratusMaximus]

Yep. It refers to keeping our republic free, not to freely allowing all kinds of harmful tripe to be posted. And anyone who thinks we'll be a freer republic if Bush is defeated is posting harmful tripe.

All hail...the thought police!

Harmful tripe? If we live in a time when people here believe that our "security" is more important than our freedom, our Constitution, and our country...then I suppose liberalism has won over all of us.

[Bikers4Bush]

More fear mongering, got any other thoughts you'd like to recycle or is that it?

[ClancyJ]

I heard the offer was extended to several nominees but Pickering was the only one accepting the offer.

[windchime]

"What would lead you to think that after that shrill and goofy statement was singled out is anyone's guess."


You led me to think that because you applied shrill and goofy even after I presented my concerns about national security relative to who is elected POTUS.

[Sabertooth]

They will still be required to enter into the lottery to win a green card just like every other immigrant. By the way, FYI, Mexicans are not allowed to enter for a green card.

You're confusing the "diversity lottery" by which foreigners from selected countries may apply for extra green cards (50,000, IIRC) over and above those normally granted, with the green cards given through the normal application process.

Think about it: if all green cards were given by lottery, and Mexicans were ineligible, then no Mexicans would get green cards. That's clearly not the case.

[Mo1]

I think he cares more about illegal aliens than legal citizens.

You HONESTLY believe that?

[George W. Bush]

Actually, Brit Hume reported it in The Grapevine. Is he an apologist, too?

I like Hume, my favorite journalist in fact. I'm hoping he goes after Kerry's Vietnam record with a blunt machete tonight. But publishing leaks planted by any administration is still just circulating rumors.

I asked for facts. Like statements from the White House or the nominees themselves.

I would like to see how Hume mentioned it. He's normally very careful about this kind of thing. I just didn't happen to catch that Grapevine and can't find it on my Tivo. I very much doubt that Hume presented it as a fact. The Grapevine is, by its nature, sometimes about spinning. Hence, the name 'grapevine'.

Rove's spin machine can turn out anything it wants. Bush-spin is not intrinsically superior to Klinton-spin, is it?

At the end of the day, I still want more Scalias and excuses don't cut it.

[exmarine]

The First Amendment has nothing to do with whether or not the owner of a private opinion forum must allow you to post tripe.

And the owner values free speech, a value you obviously don't hold.

[Bikers4Bush]

Not once have I ever laid to waste the collective thoughts of all the bushbots by implying mental illness.

You however have managed to take the debate to an alltime low.

Conrats on your dubious honor.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

It's a RED HERRING.

No it's not. It's REALITY.

WAKE THE ____ UP.

[ravingnutter]

Never mind the other four or five issues which, if asked by an honest pollster, might show a different result. .

Okey-dokey...

Pollster John Zogby: “Democrats and Republicans continue to act as mirror images of each other. Nearly four in five (78%) Republicans say the country is headed in the right direction, while 70% of Democrats and 54% of independents say it’s the wrong direction. It’s the same thing with the President’s re-elect numbers … 83% of the Republicans say he deserves re-election, while 73% of Democrats and 55% of independents say it’s time for someone new. The concept of an equally divided nation continues.”

Zogby

And don't EVEN call Zogby a Bush apologist, he's on the other end of the spectrum.

[zook]

There have been numerous well-stated defenses of Bush and his policies throughout these pages. There have been many well-state criticisms. But this isn't about that. It's about standing up to people on this forum who want to trash the man.

[Southack]

"Finally, as far as abortion: I would rather vote for a pro-choice true fiscal conservative that will cut spending and big government programs than a anti-abortion big-spender."

In other words, you'd prefer to kill children rather than take their future money.

Hillary will love what you do for her...

[Ophiucus]

Exactly. Besides, where does that number come from?

FoxNews, AP, Zogby, ABCNBCCBS, pick your source. It is approval from his base - meaning Republicans. His highest was 98% (Nov 01) and lowest 86% (Jan 04 - before the SOTUS).

I have seen his approval ratings drop 10% in 30 days

Those are general or overall, men, women, Rep, Dem, Ind all combined, and they have a greater variance. A high at 88%, a low at 50% and last I saw, 60-62% depending on the poll.

A Super-majority of Americans want the borders CONTROLLED - and NOW.

A super majority? Where's the figures? The polls I've seen, immigration isn't anywhere near the top. It's an important issue but not a killer one nationally.