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To: Graymatter
On the negative, blood shows up white because it is not part of the image. Therefore any parts that are bloodied are going to show up as light or white, not dark.

My comments about the scourge wounds appearing as "dark" on the image refers to the shroud itself, not the "positive" that appears in the photographic negative. Let's look at the supine image in the photographic negative:

Notice all the LIGHT toned scourge marks... this is because they ARE oozing blood from the broken skin. The really BRIGHT WHITE (except for the charred areas from the 1532 fire) tones are fresher blood. If you were to compare the tone of the overall image on the dorsal image (this one) with the ventral image (the one of the front) you would notice that the back is actually denser overall than the front. This is exactly because it is laying on the shroud on a stone surface.

Note the areas of lower density on the dorsal image... they correspond to areas where the body has natural curvatures toward the ventral, or where rigor mortis has raised the part abnormally such as the lower portion of the calf of the right leg. The densest area is the shoulders. All of this is somewhat harder to see because of the wounds.

The sholders in particular carry a larger load of bloody ooze than other parts, perhaps from scrapes earned by carrying the rough hewn patibulum of the Cross.

Incidentally, there IS no image underneath any blood stains... indicating the blood came first, image later.

Why are the right hand fingers so long?

This has been debated for over a century. Again, let's look at the picture:

Dr. August Accetta, a medical doctor and experienced radiologist, has proposed a very interesting theory... as well as noting some other pecuiarities of the image on the Shroud. As I pointed out in an earlier post, the shroud is not only a quasi-photograph, it is also an X-Ray! Quoting a peer reviewed article by Dr. Accetta, et al,

"The Shroud image suggests quite strongly the presence of many skeletal details e.g. carpal and metacarpal bones, some 22 teeth, eye sockets, left femur, left and possibly right thumbs flexed under the palms of the hands, as well as soft tissue and soft tissue injuries; all presumably originating from some form of radiation emitted from the body enshrouded."

The carpal bones are those that make up the base of the palm and the wrist. The metacarpals are the first bones of the fingers and are located in the palm, from the wrist to the first knuckles (in fact when you make a fist, the knuckles are the ends of the metacarpals). Dr. Accetta is saying that we are NOT seeing extra long fingers, we are seeing the fingers AND the metacarpals under the skin, giving the illusion of extra length!

Look at the other hand... the one on top. The fingertips are bent downward, wrapped around the other arm's wrist, and are out of the field of view on the image... what we are seeing on that hand that appear to be fingers are the metacarpals and immediately to their rear, between the metacarpas and the large blood stain, the carpal bones of the wrist!

Essentially, Gray, we are looking THROUGH the skin of the hand to the bones inside! P.S. Barrie Schwortz told me that under greater computer enhancement of this area it is obvious that the man on the Shroud was a male... there is the faint image of the end of his penis.

67 posted on 01/23/2004 1:24:50 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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To: Swordmaker
Swordmaker, I thank you for taking the time to enlighten me, no pun intended. I remain a bit dense ;) about the fine details, but after all, what is there is there. And while some of it, e.g. the long fingers, looks very typical of medieval style, there is no disputing the realistic quality of the balance of it. I think it impossible that anyone deliberately crafted that image---which leaves some natural process, not excluding the hand of God. But I still wonder if it wasn't embellished somewhere along the way. Particularly I wonder that after 2k years and a serious fire, the blood stains are so vivid.

Like most people I suppose, I conclude that a 3-d human figure was present and if it wasn't Jesus, that would be stranger than if it were.

I also wonder, in passing, how the shroud happened to go completely flat over the body---I assume it did from the overall lack of image distortion---at the moment the image was transferred. One would think that handling the sheet in any way would be unnecessary to effect the presumed phenomenon of resurrection. But apparently that's what happened, the sheet went flat.

Incidentally, I wonder if the shroud has been thoroughly examined for hairs or micro particles of flesh in the blood stains. That would be a lot easier than trying to figure out what caused the image.

Again, thanks for the time you're taking to answer questions on this thread. It is much appreciated!

73 posted on 01/23/2004 4:17:47 AM PST by Graymatter
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