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IMMIGRATION & THE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIME WAVE
City Journal ^ | 1/2004 | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 01/21/2004 12:49:05 AM PST by AnimalLover

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Posted on 01/12/2004 8:41:26 AM PST by Federalist 78

I felt it appropriate that it be run again - so that everyone can read it.

Any suggestions?

Additionally, Californians, specifically LA - what can we do to repeal Special Order 40? I have never heard of this little gem! Have you?

1 posted on 01/21/2004 12:49:06 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: AnimalLover
This has been posted at least twice but that's ok. It just shows why the Feds can't do anything about illegal immigration until the States help.
2 posted on 01/21/2004 12:51:20 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Ah, the cajones of our political generalissimos, so macho, so brave, so willing to call anyone who points out these truths a racist.
3 posted on 01/21/2004 12:55:56 AM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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To: AmericanVictory
Who called who a racist?
4 posted on 01/21/2004 12:57:12 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
This is dreadful.
5 posted on 01/21/2004 12:58:39 AM PST by MEG33
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To: AnimalLover; JustPiper
Bump/Ping!
6 posted on 01/21/2004 12:59:24 AM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: MEG33
The howlers are out in force.
7 posted on 01/21/2004 12:59:56 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
The polititions who approve these prohibitions to enforce the law.All politics is local rings true here.
8 posted on 01/21/2004 1:01:34 AM PST by MEG33
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To: AnimalLover
Heather McDonald's article points out that the state and local authorities are a major part of the problem. Vested interests continue to plague any kind of reform. I misread this earlier , glad I got a chance to see it again. .
Bottom line, as long as the locals don't do anything and , in fact, exacerbate the situation, nothing done on the Federal level will make any difference.
9 posted on 01/21/2004 1:02:06 AM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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Bottom line, as long as the locals don't do anything and , in fact, exacerbate the situation, nothing done on the Federal level will make any difference.

Locals don't do anything because they do not know anything about what's going on. That Order No. 40 - never heard about it. No wonder the crime rate is so high!

Even I was involved a couple of years ago when a couple of illegals broke into our home and had a field day. One of my husbands guns was found in a pawnbrokers home in Mexicali (he had been under surveilance) and as a result he was prosecuted. Briefly, the story was that illegals were taught breaking and entering in a house in Lakewood. Then they would periodically cross the border - do their dirty work - return merchandise to pawnbroker for cash, then back across the border to buy drugs, etc. Incidentally, our home is a little over 200 miles from the border. Ever heard of Torrance, CA

Any ideas what we can do? Thought about sending a letter (snail mail) to the President, Tom Ridge, our representatives and Governor Schwartzenegger, along with a copy of this article.

10 posted on 01/21/2004 1:14:07 AM PST by AnimalLover
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To: Texasforever
I believe must address the immigration,illegal immigration problem.We must not have these rules that preclude local law enforcement from acting.The process of work permits must have a stick with the carrot.

The reason no one does anything about the illegals now is that local polititions pander.There are some here that will add to the economy and eventually make good citizens...then there are others like those described here.
11 posted on 01/21/2004 1:17:39 AM PST by MEG33
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To: Texasforever; MEG33; gatorbait

The howlers are out tonight..... yes they are. Recognize this one?


12 posted on 01/21/2004 1:26:29 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: MEG33
believe must address the immigration,illegal immigration problem.We must not have these rules that preclude local law enforcement from acting.The process of work permits must have a stick with the carrot.

The only stick that will work is if the interests of the States converge with the Feds. States have no interest in helping with a problem they benefit from. The Feds have no power under the 10th amendment to force states to enforce federal law. It is a constitutional catch 22. Even after 911, states refused to participate in INS efforts to sweep airports and other places with large illegal alien workers. The only state that did was Florida and that had more to do with the family relationship between Jeb and GW than anything else. The INS has only 2000 field agents to enforce immigration laws and with 8 to 10 million in illegals in place, the Feds cannot even put a dent in the problem without all out cooperation from state and local government. States benefit from illegal immigration and that is an ugly truth no one is willing to face.

13 posted on 01/21/2004 1:27:03 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Tis a puzzle.I have an idea nothing will be done ..we'll just muddle along as we have for decades.Not a good thing.
14 posted on 01/21/2004 1:31:13 AM PST by MEG33
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To: onyx
I don't mind discussing the illegal immigration question.I think we must..but as I just said,as long as the local,states,don't allow their law enforcement to help,we can't control the borders,solve the problem with blue cards,etc.There are conflicting agendas,state and federal.We just throw up our hands and do nothing.
15 posted on 01/21/2004 1:38:19 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
In my view, it's too late for discussion. I remember years ago when CA governors were pleading for Federal help on the border. Democrat senator Alan Cranston dismissed it as did the East Coast senators and the majority of others.

"It's a CA problem --- we don't have problems in our states." Texas, Arizona, and California have been living with illegal immigration for years. Now we're overwhelmed and it's too late.

Left to me, I'd seal both borders with the military. There is no "wonderful" solution.

16 posted on 01/21/2004 1:58:36 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
I'm not feeling all that hopeful!
17 posted on 01/21/2004 2:01:42 AM PST by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Did I sound hopeful? Didn't intend that. I have given-up.
18 posted on 01/21/2004 2:05:17 AM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: onyx
No,I was just typing and thinking.
19 posted on 01/21/2004 2:07:30 AM PST by MEG33
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To: AnimalLover
re-bump
20 posted on 01/21/2004 3:20:02 AM PST by XHogPilot
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