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To: Fledermaus
It was the Democratic politicians that screwed up Vietnam and didn't allow our military a victory that was easily at hand.

I disagree that Vietnam was any more winnable under a Republican.

I disagree that Gulf War 1 & 2 (and Afghanistan) were any more loseable under a Democrat.

3,291 posted on 01/20/2004 11:00:38 PM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: Lazamataz
But Gulf War I and Gulf War II (certainly the latter) would not have been waged at all by the available Dems. Thus, they would not have had anything to win, only to lose the longer run conflict by not doing anything. Yes, the Dems would have done and won Afghanistan. The issue is whether to go to war, not whether once at war, the Dems would not wage it honorably. LBJ was a dysfunctional exception. To never or almost never go to war, is to cede the planet to the lowest common denomiator, make no mistake about it.
3,305 posted on 01/20/2004 11:06:42 PM PST by Torie
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To: Lazamataz
Then you don't understand the difference in usage of the military. Time after time, the Dems make military decisions totally based on politics while the Republicans, once the decision to use force is made, step out of the way and let the generals do their jobs.

The last Iraq war would never have even happened under a Democrat. There would have been another dozen UN resolutions on paper. And even if they did use the military, it would have been a few missiles here and there followed by more talk and then another round of useless weapons inspectors.

Reality and the facts on the ground prove you wrong. Gore, if he had won in 2000, would NEVER had allowed a ground war into Iraq. NEVER! We'd have heard about talks, containment, yadda yadda, etc.

And if he did authorize some use of ground troops, it would have been totally controlled from the political offices and not by CentComm. As every single day passed, Gore and his circle would force CentComm into new plans based on their polls and daily focus groups. If the NY Times was whining and they were getting heat, they'd have pulled out.

Especially after the first week when we got bogged down by that incredible sandstorm. I'm convinced at that point Gore would have recalled the entire mission.

And that's what I believe.
3,313 posted on 01/20/2004 11:09:54 PM PST by Fledermaus (Democrats are just not capable of defending our nation's security. It's that simple!)
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To: Lazamataz
Your first statement holds true under too much support for a strong Republican.

But your second point holds too much in the military. Any politician with their tail between their legs can drag the military along with them.

3,346 posted on 01/20/2004 11:25:40 PM PST by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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