Giuliani in 2008?

Cedar Ra[ids Gazette ^ | January 20, 2004 | Dick Hogan

[HitmanLV]

I am unaware that Rudy is pro gay marriage - he lived with 2 gay men as his marriage was crumbling, but that doesn't make him pro gay in any way, nor does it make him pro gay marriage.

He is certainly not 'anti-gun,' that is a big overstatement. And he became pro-choice out of political expediency to broker a deal with the NY Liberal Party.

Rudy is superman, still high on his reputation as a 9-11 hero, just what the USA needs for the later phases of the war on terror.

And what are you going to do if he does run for pres? Vote for Kerry? Or Hilly? Please....

[presidio9]

Do you think Rudy would agree to renew Automatic Weapons Ban, should it reach his desk? He would, as would our current President.

Actually, Rudy's track record indicates that he would favor much tighter gun restrictions. Than Bush. That being said, this thread is about the merits of Rudy Guiliani as a Presidential candidate. Your own immature opinions on the job that President Bush is doing are not really relevant here.

[dangus]

I may be wrong, but I could've sworn that Giuliani was old enough that I was truly shocked... Like something in the order of 72 years old in 2001. By 2008, he'd be 79 years old... older than Reagen was when he LEFT office. I'd hate to be accused of ageism, but are we ready for an 87 year old president?

[adam_az]

Guiliani was born in 1944.

You do the math.

[AAABEST]

Good God No!

Good God is not using the Lord's name in vain either, it's a true prayer. God help us should be wind up with a pro-death, gun grabbing statist like Rudy.

Everything is personalities and symbolism how. Idiots think he walks on water because he handled the aftermath of 911 well (which to his credit he did).

He'd be a nightmare as president though.

[JohnnyZ]

But then Rep. Jim Leach, introducing former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani at the Linn County Republican caucus, planted the seed that Giuliani would make a good presidential candidate in 2008.

Just what we need, a "Jim Leach Republican" in the White House. Gays, abortion and gun control, what a platform!

FYI, there are several good conservative candidates (Benson, Sanford, Owens, Frist, Allen, Pawlenty, Nickles, even Frenchy-loving McCain wannabe Chuck Hagel), no need to settle for a liberal.

[Cagey]

You missed something. I've just stated that Rudy and Bush aren't that much different, when you get down to it. Don't be so defensive.

Don't fret, I'm not an evil Libertarian.

[presidio9]

Rudy will be 60 on May 28th of this year.

[tkathy]

Rudy will make an awesome president in 2008. Otherwise there is no one who could win.

[presidio9]

Bush and Guiliani could not be more different, but that's really not a relevant issue here. Go hijack some other thread junior.

[johnb838]

Rudy is just one of that increasingly rare breed -- a respectable liberal. I agree he would make a good senator. I don't see him as a republican though, not really.

[presidio9]

Rudy will make an awesome president in 2008. Otherwise there is no one who could win

If Rudy does not run in 2008, trust me, somebody else will win. In fact, even if he does run in 2008, somebody else will win.

[JohnnyZ]

Rudy will make an awesome president in 2008. Otherwise there is no one who could win.

tkathy, you come on all the Rudy threads with this tiresome rant, with never once addressing the other excellent conservative candidates who are lining up to run in 2008.

You're either an idiot, if you really think no other Republican could win the presidency, or you're just BS-ing.

Either way, cut it out.

[presidio9]

FYI, there are several good conservative candidates (Benson, Sanford, Owens, Frist, Allen, Pawlenty, Nickles, even Frenchy-loving McCain wannabe Chuck Hagel), no need to settle for a liberal.

Can I get a Rick Santorum please?

Amen.

[Cagey]

Yea, I was right about the "defensive" part.

Enjoy "your" thread.

[presidio9]

Yea, I was right about the "defensive" part.

Enjoy "your" thread.

Anything that makes you feel better about taking your one-track agenda elsewhere is OK by me.

On the plus side, Maybe Rudy will do such a good job cleaning up Mexico city that immigration will become less of a concern.

[JohnnyZ]

Can I get a Rick Santorum please?

I like him, I just don't see him running. I generally discount senators as candidates, too, except the exceptions (Frist and the senator from France). Maybe VP.

I will add J.C. Watts, though Gov. of Oklahoma in 2006 is more likely. Now HE would be a good VP pick.

[TheBigB]

I don't agree with Rudy about everything, but I do like him. Yes, he's more liberal than me, and to the left of the party as a whole. He won't be President...there are lots of people who won't forget his endorsement of Cuomo in '94. But lines like this:

"Thank God George Bush is the president of the United States. I knew him to be a man of character. I knew him to be a man of determination who was not going to be swayed. He stood up and said he was going to confront terrorism . . . to prevent it from happening again."

make me like him much more. He campaigned for lots of GOPers around the country in '02. Senator or Governor from NY? Hell yes. President, reluctantly, no.

[Iron Eagle]

And what are you going to do if he does run for pres? Vote for Kerry? Or Hilly? Please....

I would bolt the the Party. And, it is true they would not miss me, singularly. But, they woulld miss the scores of other pro-life conservatives that leave with me.

Political pragmatists continue to debate within the party when it is that they will try to throw the Pro-life movement overboard. One of the big theories used, of course, is "where will they go."

For many of us, the abortion issue is a no compromise issue. We go third party or we stay home.

Listen, I have run as a republican in two elections. I enjoyed the endorsement of my President in the last one. But I will not support a pro-abortion President or VP. It is not going to happen.

I like Rudy, Ithink he did a great job as Mayor, and I thought he did a great job BEFORE 9/11. But accepting a pro-abortion Republican as mayor of an ultra liberal City is easy. That does not make him Presidential timber.

[wtc911]

Rudy unstable as Dean?

Dean has a panic attack when he finds out he's the Governor. Rudy takes charge and leads from the trenches when the city is attacked.

Rudy is stable as they come. What he is though is pedantic, arrogant and convinced that any decision he makes or position he takes is the right one.

The old Rudy has simmered and aged since 9.11, his open divorce, his cancer and his elevation to the sidelines of the national stage.

I do not think though that he will ever successfully run for POTUS. He's too polarizing, too ethnic, too liberal.

He hedged on the senate race in 06 this morning on Gambling's show. He said doing whatever he can to get Bush re-elected is his primary job.

Anyone who thinks Bush will shed Cheney pre-election is either just not paying attention or engaging in idle speculation of the wishful thinking variety. Far more likely is a late 2005 or post SOTU 2006 resignation by Cheney for unspecified health reasons.