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Work of the Hague tribunal in Racak case criticized
BERLINER ZEITUNG ^ | 2004-01-17 | Markus Bickel

Posted on 01/19/2004 11:27:35 AM PST by DTA

Berliner Zeitung, Saturday, January 17, 2004

No interest in fallen Serbs Work of the Hague tribunal in Racak case criticized
Markus Bickel

SARAJEVO/HELSINKI, January - Finnish pathologist Helena Ranta has expressed lack of comprehension regarding the work of the UN's Hague tribunal in the case of the so-called massacre of Racak.

In an interview with "Berliner Zeitung", the head of the forensic team sent by the EU to investigate occurrences in the Kosovo village of Racak in January, 1999, criticized that indications of serious fighting between Serbian soldiers and Albanian fighters on the night of 15th to 16th of January, 1999, in the Racak area had been inadequately pursued.

The tragedy in the Kosovo village exactly five years ago in which more than 40 Albanians died was used by Western politicians to convince the public of the necessity of the approaching NATO attack on Yugoslavia. U.S. diplomat William Walker played a central role. The chief of OSCE's Kosovo mission immediately accused the Serbs of having summarily executed 45 unarmed Albanian civilians in Racak. The Serbian side rejected this view and spoke about UCK fighters fallen in battle.

Photos not published

Ranta said she knows that "KLA fighters were buried near to Racak" at that time. "I had already gotten information proving that there several Serbian soldiers were also shot. Unfortunately, we will probably never find out the exact number of the Serbs that fell on that night." The question needs to be asked "why the Tribunal is not interested in this number." Ranta criticized that the indictment against the Yugoslav ex-president Milosevic in the Racak case largely follows the version of events put forward by Walker. "If ambassador Walker says that there has been a massacre in Racak, that statement has no legal effect. Even at that time I expressed that the OSCE observers had forgotten all the steps one usually expects by way of protection of the scene: its isolation, the exclusion of unauthorized persons as well as gathering of evidence." Ranta demanded the publishing of the pictures of two other photographers in addition to the OSCE photos of the scene which were also taken a few hours before the arrival of the OSCE observers.

The pictures showed "that at least one of the bodies was later moved. This body did not appear in the OSCE pictures."

Left in a lurch

During the days before beginning of the NATO attacks on Yugoslavia it was clear "that a whole series of governments had an interest in a version of Racak events which held only the Serbian side responsible," said Ranta. "However, I could not provide them with this version." She had gotten her instructions from the German diplomat, Ambassador Pauls, the representative of the German EU presidency of that time, who asked her to prepare a written tatement.

"Afterwards I had to show this individual statement to William Walker, who was obviously far from enthusiastic when he read it." Nevertheless, she agreed to participate in the important news conference on March 17, 1999. "On that occasion, I sat together with the German ambassador in Belgrade, Gruber, and a Finnish diplomat on the stage. I hoped that both men would support me." Unfortunately, that was not the case. "Instead, I had the feeling of having been left in a lurch," said Ranta. As a the result of this news conference dominated by Walker, most media considered the version of a Serbian massacre over Albanian civilians confirmed. Few days later the NATO air attacks on Yugoslavia began.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; campaignfinance; clinton; clintonlegacy; icty; kangaroocourt; kangarookourt; kla; kosovo; nato; racak; racakhoax; serbia; thehague; un; wacokid; weaselyclark; wesleyclark
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The pictures showed "that at least one of the bodies was later moved. This body did not appear in the OSCE pictures."

"El Salvador" Walker was sloppy.

Clinton's Kosovo legacy exposed.

1 posted on 01/19/2004 11:27:39 AM PST by DTA
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To: Alamo-Girl; Ann Coulter; *balkans; getgoing; Destro; joan; dennisw; knighthawk
Clinton's Racak hoax exposed by The Hague' s own expert witness.
2 posted on 01/19/2004 11:34:03 AM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: PhiKapMom; BenLurkin; Shermy; happydogdesign; Snuffington; Grampa Dave; MadelineZapeezda; ...
The latest addition to Weasly Clark's campaign file.
3 posted on 01/19/2004 11:50:48 AM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
Thanks for the ping!
4 posted on 01/19/2004 11:54:14 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Well, Dr. Ranta has talked much more extenively in court and in other interviews. Here’s a very brief synopsis of her conclusions from her testimony at the Hague:

In Court, she stated that the scene had not been staged. The victims were shot where their bodies were found. Their clothing was not changed after death and there were no indications of people being other than unarmed civilians. Her team compared bullets dug out of the ground beneath the bodies with those recovered from bodies and found they had identical markings.

You can read a report of her testimony here.

or if you really like reading, here is the transcript of her trial testimony.

And here’s a couple articles in which Dr. Ranta replies to what she calls all the “nonsense” about Racak.

5 posted on 01/19/2004 3:30:29 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
Maybe there was some fighting that happened shortly before the Racak incident or massacre. Maybe that led up to it.
6 posted on 01/19/2004 4:13:48 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: mark502inf
Maybe there was some fighting that happened shortly before the Racak incident or massacre. Maybe that led up to it. By the way, how do we know that some of the corpses weren't KLA? Don't some KLA members wear civilian clothes?
7 posted on 01/19/2004 4:14:30 PM PST by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell
There was some fighting that morning. Serb forces came in early and caught the KLA off-guard and killed several of them. That is not the issue however. Later in the day there were some scattered killings of civilians in the village and then a massacre of a larger group just outside the village. The evidence is irrefutable.
8 posted on 01/19/2004 4:49:18 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
Thanks for the information and the links!
9 posted on 01/19/2004 8:31:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: mark502inf
Several - an indefinite number more than two and fewer than many

What is the issue here, then? Serbs surprised and kill some (several) of Albanian terrorist you say. What happened to those bodies? Are they included in final body count? If yes then not all of killed were unarmed civilians, several of them were armed terrorist. If not, why such important information (Racak as terrorist camp and fighting between government forces and terrorists) was withheld? If I read Ranta correctly then there is possibility that some of fallen Serbian soldiers were dressed in civilian clothes and presented as killed Albanians. Why didn’t she voice these concerns during her appearance at so-called Hague tribunal?

As for your claim:
The evidence is irrefutable.
I beg to differ.

This is what I got typing Racak into Google
http://www.google.ca/search?q=racak&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=

Tons of links refuting you.
10 posted on 01/19/2004 9:09:54 PM PST by moroz
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To: DTA
Have you seen this?
11 posted on 01/19/2004 9:28:14 PM PST by MamaLucci (Clinton met with a White House intern more than he did with his CIA director)
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To: mark502inf
There was some fighting that morning. Serb forces came in early and caught the KLA off-guard and killed several of them. That is not the issue however. Later in the day there were some scattered killings of civilians in the village and then a massacre of a larger group just outside the village. The evidence is irrefutable.

As near as I can tell doing my own investigations, Serbs are the closest thing there are to civilized people in the Balkans, and every single one of the various accusations of atrocities against them appear to be fabricated. The story of the "Racak massacre" in my judgement is fabricated. The worst case of all is the case of Trnolpoje, a supposed "Bosnian Serb death camp, which upon closer inspection turned out to be a sort of a refugee waystation or hostel at which Serbs were caring for refugees of all stripes at their own expense.

Even Joseph Goebbels would be ashamed to tell a lie that grandiose. The big question is, once you understand how two or three of these stories actually work and what kind of people are behind them: Which of these bullshit stories are we supposed to go on believing?

How stupid do they think we are?

12 posted on 01/19/2004 9:39:06 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: DTA; *balkans; vooch; Incorrigible; mark502inf
Damn!!!! The flood gates are loose!!!!! RACAK IS A HOAX!!! FREE SLOBO!!!!!

During the days before beginning of the NATO attacks on Yugoslavia it was clear "that a whole series of governments had an interest in a version of Racak events which held only the Serbian side responsible," said Ranta. "However, I could not provide them with this version." She had gotten her instructions from the German diplomat, Ambassador Pauls, the representative of the German EU presidency of that time, who asked her to prepare a written statement.

13 posted on 01/19/2004 10:34:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: *balkans; Destro; Fusion; Jomini; A. Pole; Honorary Serb; Andy from Beaverton; NYC Republican; ...

*** FREE SLOBO ***

 

Arrest the real perp:


14 posted on 01/19/2004 11:04:41 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: Incorrigible
EL SALVADOR WALKER is active again in Rocherster University Campus in Kosovo today
15 posted on 01/19/2004 11:15:15 PM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: DTA
The CBC actually did some great stories on Canadian broadcasting. Click on the image below.

<!a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/racak/index.html">Racak<!/a> | Kosovo coverage | links

The Road to Racak

Based on a World at Six documentary by
Michael McAuliffe

CBC Radio News

16 posted on 01/19/2004 11:42:49 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: moroz
Go primary source. Read Dr. Ranta's transcript linked above. Read the statements of the people who were there. Some are at the ICTY web-site and Human Rights Watch has collected interviews from survivors; some of their quotes are in the first report at this link.
17 posted on 01/20/2004 3:27:40 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: Incorrigible
Yes. Free Slobo. From this mortal coil. Immediately.
18 posted on 01/20/2004 3:31:04 AM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (the more things change...)
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To: Andy from Beaverton; dennisw
The Road to Racak was a prequel to The Road to Jenin Hoax

I wonder how that woman sleeps at night. With her silence, she became an accomplice in murder of more than 500 civilians and destruction of livelihood of millions.

19 posted on 01/20/2004 10:10:05 AM PST by DTA (you ain't seen nothing yet)
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To: mark502inf
Maybe the Serb security forces thought that the people of Racak were KLA sympathisers. Not that I'm whitewashing atrocities.
20 posted on 01/20/2004 10:13:44 AM PST by Jacob Kell
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