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To: Voice in your head
Western observers, both among the general public and the media, commonly make the mistake of thinking that Islamism1 is the same as traditional Islam. Even Western researchers describe Islamism as a resurgence of traditional Islam.

Some people remember history, and specifically, The Crusades. They were battles against extremist Islam. This article is whitewash.

3 posted on 01/19/2004 8:50:35 AM PST by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: SunStar
Congratulations on making it all the way to the end of the first sentence of the article.
4 posted on 01/19/2004 8:55:46 AM PST by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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To: SunStar
The Crusades. They were battles against extremist Islam

How so?
10 posted on 01/19/2004 9:40:49 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: SunStar
The Crusades were a very complicated series of events. They don't fit neatly into this idea, though.

Atrocities committed against pilgrims in the Holy Land and threats against Constantinople were the two proximate causes of the Crusades. Both were a result of the conquest of the Middle East by Turkish tribes, many of whom were at best marginally Muslim. They were barbaric and motivated mostly by desire for plunder. They treated Christians who came into their power essentially as they treated Muslims who weren't part of their tribe. Badly. As did the earlier Huns, Scythians and Magyars, who were not even vaguely religious in their motivation.

In a very broad sense the Crusades were a counter-attack against Islam. But they were a several centuries delayed counter-attack.

In their aspect of holy war against the enemies of God, they were an incorporation of the Muslim idea of jihad into Christianity. Probably took a couple of centuries to take hold, since it is just a dramatically unChristian concept.
12 posted on 01/19/2004 9:52:28 AM PST by Restorer
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