GOP PRIMARY PROTEST VOTE

e-mail from Citizens Lobby | 1/18/2004 | Unknown

[JimRed]

If your state is holding a "primary" vote for the Republican candidate for president, Citizens Lobby strongly urges you to cast a "blank" ballot -- OR write in a candidate of your choice.

We recommend Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan or Alan Keyes...

President Bush needs a wake call and your vote is a great way to send him a message.

[nopardons]

It's something and I wish I knew what.

[onyx]

ZOT time.

[FITZ]

If Fox wasn't demanding it --- then would there be plans for a blue card? When there is already a green card and all sorts of other work visas.

What if Fox instead started reforming Mexico so that a few people could stay instead of all leave? Then would we need millions of impoverished people moving in who have no way of buying health insurance so that $1 billion had to be put into a Medicare bill for them?

[Jim Robinson]

You never heard me say amnesty aint that bad. I'm opposed to it.

[Texasforever]

If Fox wasn't demanding it --- then would there be plans for a blue card? When there is already a green card and all sorts of other work visas.

Because Bush is on record as supporting this long before Fox arrived in Mexico City. You live in Texas you shouls know that.

[nopardons]

Much more than waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay past it, if you ask me. Harrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuph!

[onyx]

I agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

[FITZ]

you just don't like anything out of Mexico

No --- that's not it --- not close. I think it's sick that a country that rich in natural resources refuses to change it's government and laws so that most of it's people are desperately poor, and I don't like leaders like Fox who just try to get rid of their citizens.

[The Westerner]

Well, that's a valid point, Jim. I'm concerned that by the time this comes to pass, we will have lost the freedom we are trying to save. We better hurry up.

[nopardons]

As we always do, oh ETOM. :-)

[FITZ]

Before Fox there was Salinas de Gortari --- he had the same goals as far as exporting their citizens. And I didn't like him either --- they need a leader who will reform that country.

[Texasforever]

Yes, on that we agree.

[Jim Robinson]

Well, I'm all for hurrying up. A landslide for Bush and a big increase in the Republican majority will go a long way in convincing them that the voters have had it with liberalism. The Democrat candidates are clearly spelling out and campaigning on the idea that they believe Bush is a right-wing "extremist" conservative and that only a liberal can save the day for "ordinary" Americans. Well then, what will be the message if the Democrats are soundly defeated? America Rejects Liberalism!

[A CA Guy]

One theory regarding all the Bush social spending Mr. Robinson is that this is an attempt to draw enough of the splintered Democrat votes away from that party for good to destroy it.
The Democrats are in a fight for their very survival at this moment and I think they are clueless to this point about that fact.

Have a good morning.

[Texasforever]

As a so-called "Bush-Bot" I have to disagree with that theory. Every "spending" bill Bush has signed is on an issue he campaigned for. Bush is not a real government slasher but he does stress accountability and performance measurements. I don't know if business concepts of cost benefit measurements can be successfully applied to government but that is how Bush is trying to govern. There is one heck of a lot of the money held in that education bill he signed sitting in the “bank” because public schools have, for the most part, not met the performance requirements in the bill. The democrats are screaming about it 24/7.

[Don Joe]

I am an extremist. I will NEVER EVER get to vote FOR anyone in a general election. My candidates of choice can NEVER survive the process that long. In general elections I vote FOR no one. I vote AGAINST the opposition, and I do that by punching the chad in the column of the Republican. That's how I vote AGAINST the opposition. Any other action votes FOR the opposition.

Decades of exactly that sort of voting has convinced the countryclubbers that they can get away with selling us a bill of goods, and then smirking after the fact, confident that we're stuck with 'em. "Where else are they going to go?" It's worked, bigtime, and longtime.

But, its magic is getting a bit long in the tooth. It's worked so well that we've got "our" party delivering stuff that the "opposition" could only dream of passing.

So, I'm gonna spend election day picking the broken glass out of my knees. And from what I gather, I'll have plenty of company.

No, I won't "waste my vote". I'll just keep it. So please, no lectures on how I've got a duty to vote for the lesser of two evils, OK? First, I've delivered that lecture, for decades. Second, I frankly can't determine which is "the lesser of two evils." Is it the party that promises to screw me, but, is stymied by Congress, and is opposed by most of the country? Or, is it the party that promises not to screw me -- and then screws me anyway, and is able to glide its stuff through Congress like you-know-what through a goose's vent?

A hobson's choice is no choice at all, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. My vote stays home.

[BOOTSTICK]

Who are these jerks, and why don't they just go away?

[Luis Gonzalez]

So...what'd I miss?

[Owen]

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I am an extremist. I will NEVER EVER get to vote FOR anyone in a general election. My candidates of choice can NEVER survive the process that long. In general elections I vote FOR no one. I vote AGAINST the opposition, and I do that by punching the chad in the column of the Republican. That's how I vote AGAINST the opposition. Any other action votes FOR the opposition.

Decades of exactly that sort of voting has convinced the countryclubbers that they can get away with selling us a bill of goods, and then smirking after the fact, confident that we're stuck with 'em. "Where else are they going to go?" It's worked, bigtime, and longtime.
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You, sir, have thought this through. But you, sir, still don't quite get it. Almost, but not quite.

This isn't a strategy or bill of goods sold to you. This isn't a ploy on the part of anyone to steal your vote.

This is reality. This is timeless truth. This is the way it is and always will be and it's not because of conscious choice by anyone to force anything onto you. This is the nature of the "political spectrum". There is nothing you or anyone can ever do about it. If you are an extremist, you can never have what you want in the general election.

You will NEVER have a chance to vote FOR anyone. That's the way it will always be. Your philosophy is such that all you can ever do is vote AGAINST lessers of two evils. This isn't a devious plot by anyone. This is what the universe dictates and you can't escape it. Nor, really, should you want to. An intelligent man will always want to follow the path of optimal return. An intelligent man will always want to do this even if he doesn't enjoy it.

You have no choice. Staying home elects a Democrat and you know it. It's not the path of optimal return, and you know that too. And worst of all, you know that everything I've said here is true.

[jjbrouwer]

If I talked to Jim,like that,I'd be gone in a flash.

I doubt it somehow...