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Democrats delay taking a position on Schwarzenegger bond measure (Prop 57)
Associated Press (via San Jose Mercury News) ^
| 18 January 2004
Posted on 01/18/2004 9:38:51 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:49:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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SAN JOSE, Calif. - Delegates to the California Democratic Party convention delayed a decision Sunday on whether to support Proposition 57, the statewide bond measure championed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger as the key to his economic recovery program.
The proposition, which goes before voters at the March 2 primary, would allow the state to borrow $15 billion to pay off debts which come due June 30.
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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: angelides; arnold; bond; caldemconvention; convention; debt; democrats; mulholland; prop57; sanjose; schwarzenegger; torres; westly
To: CounterCounterCulture; Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; ...
Short list.
If this is taxes with reprsentation
Give me taxes without representation
I much prefer a tax on tea!
Instead of everything else.
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posted on
01/18/2004 9:41:17 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
I have a feeling the Democrats are waiting to see which way the wind blows on the popularity of this proposition.
To: CounterCounterCulture
I agree.
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posted on
01/18/2004 9:56:58 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
Well they do not want any programs cut, and they want to expand others.
Tax increase is what they want, but they are not sure how to get it.
They are looking for a way to get it and pin it on Arnoold!
They may go for the chaos theory, that is vote down the bond to induce hurt and fear among the population and stampede them into blaming Arnoold for the chaos and vote for a new Governor in November so that the programs can be restored!!
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I think you just may be right on this.
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posted on
01/18/2004 10:08:59 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: farmfriend
Bully for them. I wouldn't vote for this measure if I were there, either, and I hope he doesn't run after this term anyway. Let him face the job they elected him to do instead of shunting it onto future Californians. Let them deal with the cuts instead of postponing the decision. It's way past time politicians were forced to make decisions instead of letting them blame the electorate for their complete wussiness.
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posted on
01/18/2004 10:14:47 PM PST
by
LibertarianInExile
(When law is used to promote inequity, those oppressed will inevitably use it to turn the tables.)
To: LibertarianInExile
I plan on voting against the measure. Didn't vote for Arnold the first time around and wouldn't do so again.
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posted on
01/18/2004 10:35:35 PM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: CounterCounterCulture
As usual .. the dems are holding up a finger to see which way the wind is blowing.
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posted on
01/18/2004 10:43:46 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
("America is the GREATEST NATION on the face of the earth")
To: farmfriend
Time to call it a night!
Have a good week!
To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!
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posted on
01/19/2004 3:11:44 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: CounterCounterCulture
Last month, legislators of both parties voted narrowly to place the measure on the ballot. Actually, the vote was along party-lines in the state Senate, with the Democrats voting overwhelmingly for it and just enough (two) Republicans to pass it (by one vote). Like the budget bills, placing Prop 57 on the ballot required a 2/3 vote.
Senate votes (GOP in boldface)
VOTES - ROLL CALL
MEASURE: ABX5 9
AUTHOR: Oropeza
TOPIC: Economic recovery bonds.
DATE: 12/12/2003
LOCATION: SEN. FLOOR
MOTION: W/O REF. TO FILE AB9 Oropeza By Chesbro
(AYES 27. NOES 12.) (PASS)
AYES
****
Ackerman Alarcon Alpert Bowen
Brulte Burton Cedillo Chesbro
Ducheny Dunn Escutia Figueroa
Florez Karnette Kuehl Machado
Murray Ortiz Perata Romero
Scott Sher Soto Speier
Torlakson Vasconcellos Vincent
NOES
****
Aanestad Ashburn Battin Denham
Hollingsworth Johnson Margett McClintock
McPherson Morrow Oller Poochigian
ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
*********************************
Knight
Assembly votes: (GOP in boldface)
VOTES - ROLL CALL
MEASURE: ABX5 9
AUTHOR: Oropeza
TOPIC: Economic recovery bonds.
DATE: 12/11/2003
LOCATION: ASM. FLOOR
MOTION: AB9 Oropeza Third Reading Urgency Fifth Extraordinary Session
(AYES 65. NOES 13.) (PASS)
AYES
****
Aghazarian Benoit Berg Bermudez
Bogh Calderon Canciamilla Chu
Cogdill Cohn Corbett Correa
Cox Daucher Diaz Dutra
Dutton Dymally Firebaugh Goldberg
Harman Jerome Horton Shirley Horton Houston
Jackson Keene Kehoe Koretz
La Malfa La Suer Laird Leno
Leslie Levine Lieber Liu
Longville Lowenthal Matthews McCarthy
Montanez Mullin Nakanishi Nakano
Nation Negrete McLeod Nunez Oropeza
Pacheco Parra Pavley Plescia
Reyes Richman Ridley-Thomas Runner
Salinas Samuelian Spitzer Steinberg
Vargas Wiggins Wolk Yee
Wesson
NOES
****
Bates Campbell Chavez Frommer
Garcia Haynes Maddox Maldonado
Maze Mountjoy Simitian Strickland
Wyland
ABSENT, ABSTAINING, OR NOT VOTING
*********************************
Chan Hancock
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posted on
01/19/2004 8:19:09 PM PST
by
heleny
(No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yep, I can agree with that.
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posted on
01/19/2004 8:20:07 PM PST
by
Tempest
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