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Posted on 01/18/2004 5:53:14 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Female, forty and furious January 19, 2004 - 11:24AM

On the attack ... Sharon Stone, Holly Hunter and Meg Ryan.

Hollywood's most formidable female stars have united to condemn "sexist" film moguls for failing to find roles for women over 40.

Meg Ryan, Holly Hunter, Charlotte Rampling, Sharon Stone and Whoopi Goldberg are among a group of 30 actresses who have taken part in a documentary by Rosanna Arquette to be screened in Britain this summer.

The documentary is seen as a thinly veiled attack on moguls such as Harvey Weinstein - the portly co-owner of Miramax - who control the film industry and the careers of Hollywood actresses.

Arquette, 44, who rose to fame when she starred opposite Madonna in the 1985 film Desperately Seeking Susan, said that her interest in what happened to 40-year-old women in Hollywood was sparked by the experience of

Debra Winger, the star of Terms of Endearment, who announced that she was quitting in 1996 aged 40. "Ageing," Arquette said this week, "equals career death."

In the documentary, called Searching For Debra Winger, Winger, who has been nominated for three Oscars, tells how she decided to quit and reveals that while she was working on An Officer And a Gentlemen the notorious producer Don Simpson told her that she needed diet pills.

Julianna Margulies, 37, who starred in ER opposite George Clooney, speaks frankly about the rigours of the casting couch. "You ask anyone that has been in those [audition] meetings. They say, 'Yeah that actress is great but would you f*** her?' And they ask all the men in the room."

The documentary will provoke heated debate in Hollywood, which has long been accused of discriminating against women for their age and beauty. Arquette told London's Sunday Telegraph that she had already received criticism from film bosses. "There are a lot of misogynistic men who are very angry about it," she said. "They've told me, 'It's just a bunch of chicks sitting around bitching about us'."

In the film, Daryl Hannah, 43, says that the root of the problem lies "with the guys who run the studios. They choose projects that they identify with and they say, 'I'd like to be that man having an affair with a chick of 18'."

Samantha Mathis, 33, agrees. "It's the revenge of the nerds syndrome, all these guys couldn't get a girlfriend in high school. They are smart but they have no social skills; suddenly they are running studios in a position of power."

Arquette's subjects are candid and often angry about the way the industry has spat them out once they have aged. Martha Plimpton, 33, says: "For women it's either, she's a starlet or she's an old hag." Whoopi Goldberg adds that film producers "want you to think that you're done" once actresses had turned 40.

Arquette, who is currently filming another documentary about musicians, continues to act and has recently been filming two comedies with the British actresses Imogen Stubbs and Jennifer Saunders.

She says that certain elements of Hollywood have always annoyed her. "I find it offensive that in Hollywood a 68-year-old movie star is paired with a 30-year-old, or someone even younger. You think, 'Come on, who are you kidding'. It is offensive."

Other interviewees said that they had financial problems when the parts dried up. Theresa Russell, 46, says: "It was really hard, I didn't get an audition for years and I started running out of money. I thought, what else can I do? I resent being in this situation. They want to put you out to pasture."

In any other profession, she says, "your work would get better the older you got". Holly Hunter, 45, who won an Oscar for The Piano, believes actresses are at their peak at 40. "The deal is that actresses who are good have probably never been better once they hit 40. Once I hit 40 I had charms that I didn't have when I was 30 and I want to use them."

Teri Garr, 53, who has appeared in more than 50 films, including Tootsie, insists that films should reflect the existence of older women in real life. "There are people who are my age and older who still exist in the world, so there should be writers who write stories that include them. There should be parts for us, even if they are smaller."

She adds: "I remember when I was young the great actresses telling me, 'Wait till they tell you your face has been ravaged by time'."

Diane Lane, 39, dislikes the vocabulary used to describe older women's looks. "If you want to live you must age. Beauty has to be a certain way [in Hollywood]." If you age, she says, "it is described as 'damaged beauty' or 'sad beauty' or 'aged beauty'." She adds: "Character actresses will always work freely because they are not coming from the immaculate time when one looked perfect." Adrienne Shelley, 38, the star of The Unbelievable Truth, tells of how much sex plays a part of being a Hollywood actress. She says: "I get a call in my car on the way to an audition from the agent. He said, 'What is really important is that they think you are f***able'.

"The man walks in and looks right at my tits and I saw in his face that there was no way I was going to get the part. And yet in the real world there is no way I would give this guy the time of day."

Lane urges women to make more of an issue of the problem. "When women don't want to talk about these issues it is so awful," she says. "Hiding away just perpetuates the problem.

"Women want to watch other women of their own age sometimes. All these young people are great but let them watch each other. We want to watch us."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: actress; aging; castingcouch; hollyweird; hollywood
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To: Sub-Driver
They need to get older and uglier faster and better. Theres plenty of Gertrude roles in Hollyweird.
81 posted on 01/18/2004 6:49:06 PM PST by reed_inthe_wind (I reprogrammed my computer to think existentially, I get the same results only slower)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Theresa Russell, 46, says: "It was really hard, I didn't get an audition for years and I started running out of money."

How many million dollar mansions did you buy?
How much money did you throw away on lavish parties?

82 posted on 01/18/2004 6:49:39 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: philetus
How many million dollar mansions did you buy? How much money did you throw away on lavish parties?

How many geeks in High School did you laugh at?

83 posted on 01/18/2004 6:52:32 PM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: Sub-Driver
Well..girls.....that's what you get when you associate with LIBERAL, COMMIES who could care less about you, but just want to use you (for their financial purposes) until you're used up. And, that's what YOU get when you take on sexually suggestive roles when you're in your 20's-30's.....and make a ton of money off of them. HEEE HAAWWWW. Joke's on you.
84 posted on 01/18/2004 6:54:06 PM PST by goodnesswins (Poverty is more about the "mental" than the "money.")
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To: hunter112
Katharine (that's how she spelled her name) Hepburn was indeed a talented actress; winning a record four Academy Awards, along with films like "The Philadelphia Story"-one of my personal Hepburn favorites- is certainly proof of that...and though she wasn't beautiful in the same way as Vivien Leigh, Kate could still hold her own with her classical eyes and chiseled cheekbones.

-Regards, T.
85 posted on 01/18/2004 6:55:19 PM PST by T Lady (Who Let the 'RATS Out?!!)
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To: Tangerine Time Machine
My wife is a comedy writer/singer who's really into this issue, and what she did was create her own show. She does a live comedy/music cabaret show called "My Ship Has Sailed," filled with song parodies about Botox, plastic surgery, etc., and writes a blog goofing on outrageous news stories on those subjects. She calls age "the last big culturally-acceptable bias" because all the liberals in Hollywood are so ultra-sensitive to any offense to any group, but if you're a woman over 35, they'll call you nasty names and throw you on the scrap heap without a second thought. These women are all wealthy and connected; why can't they do what she did and create their own movies? "Calendar Girls" and "Something's Gotta Give" are currently proving that there's a market for movies with mature adults, so cash in on it already! (BLATANT PLUG ALERT!) Check out Laura's Diary at: http://www.lauraainsworth.com/news/news1.htm
87 posted on 01/18/2004 6:59:51 PM PST by HHFi
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To: Sub-Driver
The article is BS.

Jodie Foster is over 40 and so are Michelle Phiffer and Sissy Spacick.

Good actresses find work.

Its the one's who don't have much talent and have screwed their way to fame that get tossed aside.

What a shocker!!!!

88 posted on 01/18/2004 7:00:58 PM PST by Stewart_B ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.")
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To: cyborg; Sub-Driver; Lancey Howard
Lancey Howard
They didn't complain when they once got roles only because they were young babes.

cyborg
Women are judged way more harshly for their looks.

It's a Darwinian thing. Women's fertility decreases and stops earlier than men's. Males who prefer beautiful fertile young women get their genes represented more members of future generations. There's selective pressure for women to be beautiful and for men's brains to recognize that beauty.

89 posted on 01/18/2004 7:01:53 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Actually, age discrimination will/is becoming a big issue in America. It's happening at great frequency in all fields and continue to do so. Only a matter of time until this becomes a one of the hot button issues.
90 posted on 01/18/2004 7:04:11 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: ladyinred
"And I thought all of those Hollywood men were so enlightened!"

You said what I was thinking. Liberal hypocrites. They don't really mean a thing they say. They want their stupid system to apply to everyone else. They expect to be excluded from rules and restrictions.

91 posted on 01/18/2004 7:04:32 PM PST by Rocky
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To: Joe Hadenuf
good point
92 posted on 01/18/2004 7:06:21 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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To: Sub-Driver
They are all wealthy enough to start their own film companies. Why don't THEY take the risk with THEIR money and see if the public is interested in watching their movies.
93 posted on 01/18/2004 7:06:26 PM PST by cupcakes
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To: cyborg
Are we ever floating around the same threads tonight:-)
94 posted on 01/18/2004 7:07:26 PM PST by cupcakes
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To: Pukin Dog
In real life, Harrison Ford is paired with Calista Flockhart--from Aly McBeal. She aint no 40, gals.
95 posted on 01/18/2004 7:08:40 PM PST by ontos-on
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To: ladyinred
And I thought all of those Hollywood men were so enlightened!

[evil cackle]

96 posted on 01/18/2004 7:09:10 PM PST by wizardoz ("Crikey! I've lost my mojo!")
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To: cupcakes
LOL I think so! Now all we need is a thread about forty year old single women hearing the loud ticking of their bio clocks.
97 posted on 01/18/2004 7:09:23 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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To: AngrySpud
I agree with that too, but these ladies have the experience in the industry and the money to make things happen. They should stop the whining and make a niche for themselves.
98 posted on 01/18/2004 7:09:37 PM PST by cupcakes
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To: Sub-Driver
I see a lot of roles for women over 40 in flicks.... what the hell do they want?? Unless they are talking about XXX flicks, I think 30 is considered over the hill for porn.
99 posted on 01/18/2004 7:11:26 PM PST by Porterville (I am Hispanic and Republican a old but growing political force.)
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To: Pukin Dog
How many things look good at 40 except for currency, precious metals minerals and liquor?

And now with Viagra some 40 year old things can still look good too.

100 posted on 01/18/2004 7:11:56 PM PST by ladyjane
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