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4th Infantry Division 24 Hour Activity + late CJTF7 post: 4ID Soldiers Find Weapons Cache
CJTF7 ^ | Jan. 18, 2004

Posted on 01/18/2004 10:33:29 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl

 

24 Hour Activity

TIKRIT, Iraq –
4th Infantry Division and Task Force Ironhorse has, over the past 24 hours, conducted 165 patrols, seven raids and captured 22 individuals. Seven of the patrols were joint operations conducted with the Iraqi police, the Iraqi Civil Defense Corps and the Border Guard in order to continually improve the safety and standard of living for the Iraqi people.

Weapons and equipment confiscated in raids and patrols throughout the Task Force Ironhorse area of operation include six AK-47 assault rifles, two rocket propelled grenade launchers, four grenades, 687 mortar rounds, 13 122mm rockets, and two improvised explosive devices.

Release #040117i

http://www.cjtf7.army.mil/media-information/january2004/040117i.htm

 

4th Infantry Division Soldiers Find Weapons Cache

TIKRIT, Iraq –
Soldiers from 3rd Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment were in the town of Al Buthama, northeast of Baji, to find an Iraqi citizen reported weapons cache filled with rockets in the afternoon of Jan. 15.

As they moved into the area soldiers saw two vehicles fleeing at a high rate of speed. Unable to catch the vehicles, the soldiers went to the place where the rocket cache were reported to be and found 13 surface-to-surface, 120mm missiles and 250 155mm mortar rounds in bunkers.

There was an indication that someone had tried to remove some ammunition recently. While at the weapons cache location soldiers saw another two men standing near a building. As the patrol approached the men attempted to flee but were captured a short distance away. The patrol went to the men’s residences where the soldiers located and confiscated three AK-47 assault rifles and anti-Coalition pamphlets. An additional person was detained in one of the houses.

Release #040117h

http://www.cjtf7.army.mil/media-information/january2004/040117h.htm



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4id; 4thid; captured; cjtf7; gnfi; goodguys; iraq; ironhorse; tfironhorse

1 posted on 01/18/2004 10:33:30 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This may seem like a stupid comment, but is there any Arabic media broadcast in Iraq and other Arab countries explaining just what a very small element within Iraq is doing and what we and the Iraqi police are doing to make the country a safer place?

It's one thing to hava a few small arms in your domicile for safety reasons, but it's a whole different ball of gas when explosives are found, RPG's, mortars, and mines. Those items are going to inflict the damage on civilians more than anything else.

What is being done to get the message out to Iraqi folk?

2 posted on 01/18/2004 10:44:08 AM PST by blackdog (Democrat Party? Democratic Party? Democrat Candidate? Democratic Candidate? Wassup wit dat?)
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To: MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; TEXOKIE; Alamo-Girl; windchime; Grampa Dave; anniegetyourgun; ...
Weapons and equipment confiscated in raids and patrols throughout the Task Force Ironhorse area of operation include six AK-47 assault rifles, two rocket propelled grenade launchers, four grenades, 687 mortar rounds, 13 122mm rockets, and two improvised explosive devices.

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Plus, Saddam's nephew is one less threat against our 4ID warriors, and left one less task for our brave EOD guys.

8 GI night patrol escapes trap -- 2 bombers die 
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If you want on or off the Pro-Coalition ping list, please Freepmail me, Calpernia or xzins. Warning: it is a high volume ping list on good days. (Most days are good days).

3 posted on 01/18/2004 10:51:55 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (~*)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Rounding up the bad guys and their weapons ~ Bump!
4 posted on 01/18/2004 10:54:48 AM PST by blackie
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To: blackdog
Not a dumb question. The Arabic and Western media have caused major problems for our troops from the start.

We have TV news ~ radio, press, leaflets ~ in Arabic...as well as the CPA websight, joint Iraqi-Coalition reports in Arabic and English...as are the CPA transcripts and most CJTF7 news releases.

We are competing against over 120 other news outlets.

The Iraqi people are putting out their own free press, supporting US, and Iraqi bloggers have been an important source of news from the beginning....more as more Iraqis have access to the internet...and can reach the outside world.

It is, and will be, a struggle to get the news to them.

One of the more effective ways, especially in Mosul, it seems, is the joint Coalition-Iraqi regular 'townhall' meetings, and the new Iraqi civil affairs, where complaints are heard, as well as news.

5 posted on 01/18/2004 11:06:27 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl (~*)
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To: blackdog
What is being done to get the message out to Iraqi folk?

Why don't you ask an Iraqi? There are several Iraqi Blogs (Web-logs) that post in English. You can find a big list here: Future of Iraq Portal.

Iraqi Blogs I lurk on:


6 posted on 01/18/2004 11:20:25 AM PST by XHogPilot
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We have TV news ~ radio, press, leaflets ~ in Arabic...as well as the CPA websight, joint Iraqi-Coalition reports in Arabic and English...as are the CPA transcripts and most CJTF7 news releases.

Outstanding!

7 posted on 01/18/2004 11:58:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: XHogPilot
Thanks!
8 posted on 01/18/2004 11:59:15 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: XHogPilot; Ragtime Cowgirl; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Dog; knak; Calpernia; xzins; ...
From "Healing Iraq" a very different slant as I see it!

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Wednesday, January 14, 2004

The (Sunnis=Saddam loyalists=terrorists) equation  

Some of the remarks and emails from many misinformed readers on the Samarrai family's misfortune prompted me to write this. I'm not really surprised since many similar comments have been made over here by IRAQIS. Also some of you may recall my 'rant' a couple of months back about blowing up the Sunni triangle and bombing Tikrit and Al-Awjah which just goes to show that I was not immune myself from generalizations and misconceptions.

There were comments like "I'm sure Zaydun was running weapons to Al-Qaeda", "Samarra is a hotbed of insurgency so these two guys were most definitely Saddam loyalists", "Isn't Samarra a Sunni city??", "Oh, they're from the triangle". "They were most likely terrorists". It was obvious that a large proportion of my American readership believes that people from that area are largely Saddam loyalists or inherently evil. Such simplisicm has very dangerous consequences. The situation in the Sunni areas north and west of Baghdad is very complex and I have only now started to grasp some of it especially since Saddam's capture.

Some Iraqis and specifically GC members, ministers, and characters that have gained some authority and influence in post-Saddam Iraq allude, on many occasions, to the fact that Iraq was exclusively ruled by Sunnis during the last 80 years. They explain that the British occupation adminstration early in the last century punished the Shi'ite majority because of their leading role in the bloody 1920 revolt (thawrat al'ishrin) against the British presence in Iraq following WWI which was sparked by fatwas from the Shi'ite marji'iya and Hawza clerics (specifically by the Ayatollah Al-Shirazi who was the Sistani of that period). They supposedly punished the Shia back then by installing a Sunni government and a Sunni monarch (Faisal the Hashemite) instead of the Shi'ite candidate (Prince Khaz'al of Al-Muhammarah).

This explanation of history is inaccurate, as the Shi'ite majority had no leaders at that period other than their Hawza and religious leaders, most of whom were of Iranian origins (The same situation ironically applies to Shia today), while on the other hand Sunni Iraqis were better educated and privileged under the Sunni Ottoman empire. So the British adminstration had no other choice.

It is true though that Saddam Hussein favoured Sunni Iraqis over the Shi'ite and Kurdish populations when it came to government positions. That does not however neccessarily imply that Sunnis were immune of his tyranny, or that all Sunnis were better off under Saddam, or that they supported or still support Saddam and the Ba'ath.

Mohammed at Iraq the model describes at great length with both eye witnesses and documents how the small Sunni town of Al-Dijayl (50 km north of Baghdad) was literally wiped out during the early eighties when Saddam's convoy was attacked in that area. In 1992 about a 100 Sunni merchants were executed publicly in the Sunni Adhamiya neighbourhood of Baghdad (which is labelled today as an area loyal to Saddam). Several tribal sheikhs and military officers from Ramadi and Fallujah were executed in the late nineties after a failed assasination attempt against Saddam. High ranking officers in the army and Republican Guard, all of whom were Sunnis, were executed periodically during the last two decades when their loyalty to the regime was in doubt. Not to mention that during operation Iraqi Freedom the fiercest resistance against the invasion came from the south, while Sunni areas were handed over by their tribal leaders in peaceful agreements with coalition officers. Also you should know that if Republican Guard officers decided to defend Baghdad against the advancing American forces it wouldn't have fallen so easily on April 9.

Today Sunni Iraqis feel left out of the picture. Sunni tribal leaders say they are 'marginalized' in the new Iraq. By the way, this term 'marginalization' (tahmish in Arabic) has become a very common one in our political vocabulary lately, everyone says they are being marginalized, Sunnis are being marginalized, Christians are being marginalized, Turkomen are being marginalized, Yazidis are being marginalized, Mandeans are being marginalized, the Hawza is marginalized... And so it goes. Anyway, Sunni tribal leaders from the Anbar, Salah Al-Din, Diyalah, and Ninewah governorates argue that they have no representation in any governmental office. None in the GC, none in the GC appointed cabinet. One of these leaders said "Iraq is practically run today by Shi'ites and Kurds".
And when I come to think of it, that statement is partially true.

The CPA realizes this, and that explains their repeated meetings with influential tribal leaders in the Sunni triangle. If the CPA wins the loyalty and trust of those tribal leaders the insurgency would diminish and the reconstruction process would move huge steps forward since they would point out any insurgents, foreign terrorists, and regime officials that are hiding in their midst clinging to tribal customs of blood ties and protection. Some of that is already taking place. An Iraqi newspaper even purported some time ago that Sunni leaders made a subtle deal with the Americans to hand over Saddam in return for a greater role in the new Iraq and as a gesture of good will.

The current policy of 'divide and conquer' will never work in Iraq, and further alienation and isolation of Sunnis will backfire against the American presence and would eventually lead to civil war between Iraqis. A prominent blogger emailed me recently and said that the American adminstration intends to leave Iraq in the capable hands of the Grand Ayatollah Al-Sistani. 'Intends' is not the right word, I would say that in the absence of a strong Sunni alliance or leadership as a balance, the Americans would be coerced to do so. I'm confident that the US would not allow Iraq to turn into an Iranian-style theocracy. Sistani is doing his best to embarrass the CPA and place obstacles in its way. He insists that the constitution should be written by a committee directly elected by Iraqis. That man is a genius (he looks like a wizard anyway), he knows that elections at this time would be in his best interests. Mullahs would be elected to municipal and governorate councils and the coming interim government, and the trick would be done. 'After all that is democracy, isn't it?' I can almost hear him saying.

I'm not happy with the way Sistani is acting as Godfather to the Iraqi people. And from my visits to the south I'm pretty confident that if he issued a fatwa for Shi'ites to go drop themselves in the river, they would all line up to do so. The power he holds over them concerns me. They should understand that he isn't holy to 40% of Iraqis, and that they can't impose their marji'iya or beliefs on the rest of us. Sunni clerics have already formed their Hai'at Al-Ulemma in an attempt to balance against the influence of the Shi'ite Hawza and the marji'iya.

The SCIRI erected a large monument of the late Ayatollah Mohammed Baqir Al-Hakim in our neighbourhood (which is largely Sunni), it was burnt the next day by enraged teenagers. The SCIRI repsonded by putting another one and assigning two militia men to guard it. The enraged teenagers reacted the following day by blowing it up from a distance with an RPG. Many people from my neighbourhood condoned the action, and said that the SCIRI was trying to provoke Sunnis.

When there were demonstrations in Adhamiyah by teenagers carrying Saddam's posters shouting "F*ck Sistani", and "Death to Al-Hakim and Al-Sadr", a group of armed Al-Sadr supporters tried to reach the area where the demos were held but were prevented by IP and Americans. The next day according to Adamiyah residents there were undercover SCIRI agents roaming the neighbourhood trying to identify the demonstrators. And of course the response was RPG attacks against SCIRI headquarters in Baghdad which are notably increasing, and Abdul Aziz Al-Hakim himself escaped several assasination attempts.

The Kurds are no exception, by demanding that Kirkuk, Mosul, and parts of Diyala to be added to the autonomous Kurdistan region. Peshmerga militia harassing Arabs and Turkomen in these areas, and calling for their forced deportation. The Sunnis fears are justified, especially with the issue of federalism that has been raised by some GC members.

I'm digressing. What I'm trying to say is that day by day, I'm realizing more and more that the insurgence in the Sunni triangle is an act of defiance against this new reality in Iraq and is only partly directed against the Americans. Saddam's capture shocked many Sunni Iraqis because some of them identified with him as being the only antidote against this rise of Shi'ite and Kurdish domination. And it's evident from the decrease in attacks against Americans and the increase in attacks against other Iraqis, that the insurgents are getting desperate. The key to avoid civil war in Iraq is to ensure that no sect, group, political party, or ethnicity is granted power over others.

I guess this entry turned out to be longer than I planned but the topic should still be discussed further, so I'll try to write another blog about it later.



9 posted on 01/18/2004 3:36:22 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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The real meat as far as I am concerned:

I'm digressing. What I'm trying to say is that day by day, I'm realizing more and more that the insurgence in the Sunni triangle is an act of defiance against this new reality in Iraq and is only partly directed against the Americans. Saddam's capture shocked many Sunni Iraqis because some of them identified with him as being the only antidote against this rise of Shi'ite and Kurdish domination. And it's evident from the decrease in attacks against Americans and the increase in attacks against other Iraqis, that the insurgents are getting desperate. The key to avoid civil war in Iraq is to ensure that no sect, group, political party, or ethnicity is granted power over others.

10 posted on 01/18/2004 3:38:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And Bremer seems to understand the problem as expressed by the blogger:

Iraq Politics Poses Dilemma for U.S.

11 posted on 01/18/2004 3:48:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
12 posted on 01/19/2004 2:00:56 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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