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David Brooks: Bush has crashed through the 45-45 partisan divide
Star Tribune ^ | Published January 18, 2004 | David Brooks, New York Times

Posted on 01/17/2004 9:32:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 01/17/2004 9:37:41 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

In 2000, the American electorate was evenly divided. Now, as we enter another voting season, the Gallup Organization has released a study, based on 40,000 interviews, that shows that 45.5 percent of voters identify with or lean toward the Republican Party and 45.2 percent identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party. So is that it?

After Sept. 11, the Iraq war and the Madonna-Britney kiss, could it really be that we are back to where we started? Since 2000, tens of millions of people have moved, divorced and converted; can it really be that everything in America changes except politics?

Yes and no. Yes, the political divides today do look a lot like the ones that split the nation in 2000. But no. When you look beneath the headline data, you see at least one important change. The events of the past three years have brought to the foreground issues that divide Democrats, and pushed to the background issues that divide Republicans.

The first result is that the Republican Party is more unified than ever before. Ninety-one percent of Republicans approve of the job President Bush is doing. In 1992, Bush's father didn't have anything like that level of support, and even the Reagan administration was split between so-called pragmatists and ideologues. © Copyright 2004 Star Tribune. All rights reserved.

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1 posted on 01/17/2004 9:32:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
Can you redo this? Hard to read, thanks.
2 posted on 01/17/2004 9:36:00 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Jim Robinson
Insightful article....

Points toward a Bush lanslide in 2004....

Good catch...

NeverGore
3 posted on 01/17/2004 9:40:40 PM PST by nevergore (“Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.”)
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To: Jim Robinson
In a Bush-Dean matchup, 20 percent of Democrats would vote for Bush, according to a CBS poll, while only 3 percent of Republicans would vote for Dean.

It would appear there is some level of sanity among the Demlibs afterall. But I don't know any Republican that would consider voting for Howie Dean.

4 posted on 01/17/2004 9:54:06 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: William Creel
Are you saying that the dynamic does not exist?
6 posted on 01/17/2004 10:19:35 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Jim Robinson
The first result is that the Republican Party is more unified than ever before.

Was this written before the amnesty thing? I would have believed it 2 weeks ago, but I think the Republicans got one heck of a jolt with the illegal immigrant measure.

8 posted on 01/17/2004 10:25:43 PM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: Reagan Man
3 percent of Republicans would vote for Dean.

Who are they?

9 posted on 01/17/2004 10:26:19 PM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: krb
Why? It was a proposal to address the issue. By the way. "amnesty" as used in the illegal immigration sense, is an immediate grant of permanent residency status as was done in 1986. This proposal does not meet that standard. We can't debate the issue if ther terms of the debate are not properly defined. In fact the issue itself has not been debated at all around here. It has been a lot of people talking past each other.
11 posted on 01/17/2004 10:29:58 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: krb
Maybe they meant 3 Republican's, not 3 percent. ;^)
12 posted on 01/17/2004 10:30:27 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Texasforever
Yeah, I continue to hope that Bush has pulled off a master stroke. But he is smarter than I am, and I don't see it yet.
13 posted on 01/17/2004 10:32:39 PM PST by krb (the statement on the other side of this tagline is false)
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To: krb
Bush's proposal is just that and nothing more. It's not an executive order. Over time, what actually does or doesn't happen on that front will do more to coalesce or not coalesce conservative support for Dubya.
14 posted on 01/17/2004 10:36:49 PM PST by squidly (Money is inconvenient for them: give them victuals and an arse-clout, it is enough.)
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To: Texasforever
>>>By the way. "amnesty" as used in the illegal immigration sense, is an immediate grant of permanent residency status as was done in 1986.

That's simply not true and you know it. The immigration reform proposal that PresBush laid out, specifically mentions offering legal status to illegal aliens. There is little difference between what PresReagan signed into law in 1986 and what PresBush proposed recently.

In his speech Bush said:
"This program will offer legal status... to the millions of undocumented men and women now employed in the United States..."

"[U]ndocumented men and women..." aka. illegal aliens.

The definitions of pardon and amnesty are quite clear.

pardon: "a release from the legal penalties of an offense"
amnesty: "the act of an authority by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals"

Bush spoke of no legitimate penalty that would fit the crime and in my book, eight million illegal aliens constitutes a large group.

Let's have some intellectual honesty on this issue. Going around misrepresenting the factual truth serves no good purpose.

15 posted on 01/17/2004 10:53:12 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: krb
"...but I think the Republicans got one heck of a jolt with the illegal immigrant measure."

Here's the thing about Rove pandering to the Hispanic vote. IMO most Hispanics did NOT expect GWB to make a move like that and so would not have resented it if he continued to do nothing ... but boy GWB's base sure resents his doing it. In other words, it wasn't that broke, Karl.

16 posted on 01/17/2004 11:08:53 PM PST by Let's Roll (Support our brave troops as they protect us from evil.)
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To: Reagan Man
That's simply not true and you know it. The immigration reform proposal that PresBush laid out, specifically mentions offering legal status to illegal aliens.

That is VERY different from immediate green card status. The only "amnesty" involved is the opportunity to register as a guest worker and at some point down the line apply for resident alien status which by the way is far from guaranteed. In 1986 almost 6 million illegal immigrants were granted IMMEDIATE permanent residency. There is no comparison.

17 posted on 01/17/2004 11:09:20 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: krb
Oh please. It's true that a lot of Republicans aren't happy with the immigration proposal, but for the vast, vast, VAST majority of them, it's not going to determine how they vote in November. There are too many other big issues at stake in this election for immigration to be a deciding factor.
18 posted on 01/17/2004 11:10:14 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Let's Roll
but boy GWB's base sure resents his doing it.

Anyone who's loosing sleep over Bush's immigration proposal, or whose vote will be affected by the immigration proposal, were never part of Bush's base to begin with. I can understand that it has upset the Buchanan base, but that's not much to worry about.

19 posted on 01/17/2004 11:14:06 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: Texasforever
Good point. An "amnesty" with conditions is not "amnesty."
20 posted on 01/17/2004 11:15:38 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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