Posted on 01/17/2004 12:51:31 PM PST by paltz
The names have passed through a German version at some point. Ludwig XI = Louis XI (reigned 1461-1483); Karl VI = Charles VI (1380-1422); Karl VII = Charles VII (1422-1461). Charles VII is the king Joan helped; I've read that there is some doubt that he was really the son of Charles VI (his own mother supposedly said that he was not).
Just when you're convinced that it's Mary Magdelene on the right!
Now I'm gonna have to read the book all over again...then make a trip to the Louvre.....ahhh crap...that's in France...isn't it.
Close. She was the great-granddaughter of Helen Thomas.
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Oh, for the days when the only place you saw this kind of drivel was in Prava.
Oh, for the days when the only place you saw this kind of drivel was in Prava.
But this guy finds an old skull he can't identify so, heck, maybe it was all faked 'cause that skull just has to be Joan. So it was all fake, you know, like the Moon landing.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-353422.html
http://www.stjoan-center.com/Trials/
dead link:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:xbKNeh-e5CkJ:www.hup.harvard.edu/pdf/HOBTRI_excerpt.pdf+&hl=en
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/dec/17/france.alexduvalsmith
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/joan-of-arc-portrait-found-1159726.html
http://andreaskluth.org/2010/05/29/the-wrong-heroine-joan-of-arc/
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-592974.html
http://csis.pace.edu/grendel/WS2/research1.html
http://law.hamline.edu/files/pdfs/jlr/pdfs/Tiefenbrun.pdf
You mean you didn’t like her in bill & ted’s excellent adventure? ;)
What they don't/can't document but has always been rumored is that after Joan repented and had been forgiven she was not released from irons and her guards repeatedly assaulted and/or raped her until she relapsed to wearing mens' clothing, which triggered the subsequent proceeding leading to the death sentence.
Human beings are capable of great cruelty. They are also capable of believing amazing things, as this fellow documents. :-))
How dare you demean Joan of Arc by alleging she is related to Helen Thomas.
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