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(French) Minister seeks closer ties to U.S.
Washington Times ^ | 1/17/04 | David R. Sands

Posted on 01/17/2004 1:51:38 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie said yesterday that "certain radical neoconservative ideas" are driving a wedge between Europe and the United States at a time when the trans-Atlantic alliance must be strengthened in the face of common threats.

In remarks at the end of a two-day fence-mending visit to Washington, Mrs. Alliot-Marie conceded that 2003 was a difficult time for Franco-American relations, but said Paris had been unfairly "stigmatized" as a "strategic adversary of the United States."


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alliotmarie; france; olivebranch
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1 posted on 01/17/2004 1:51:39 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
The Eurotrash pansy waisted French Defense Minister can go back to Paris. Scram!
2 posted on 01/17/2004 2:04:02 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: All
As if the French know anything about Democracy.
3 posted on 01/17/2004 2:04:53 AM PST by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: kattracks
Let Them Eat (yellow)Cake!
4 posted on 01/17/2004 2:06:41 AM PST by Old Sarge (Operation Noble Eagle - We Watch, So You Don't Have To.)
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To: kattracks
Mrs. Alliot-Marie conceded that 2003 was a difficult time for Franco-American relations, but said Paris had been unfairly "stigmatized" as a "strategic adversary of the United States."

France has been a strategic adversary of the U. S. for decades and should be considered so going into the future.
5 posted on 01/17/2004 2:28:20 AM PST by pt17
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To: kattracks
certain radical neoconservative ideas"

I wonder what those ideas are. Maybe she means the idea that we can get along fine without France. That we can vacation without going to Paris. That we can find fine wine to drink that isn't French.

As an aside; what are neoconservative ideas that are being talked of here? Do they mean going back to conservative roots? How then the "neo"? It is a conundrum.

6 posted on 01/17/2004 2:33:50 AM PST by patj
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To: patj
"certain radical neoconservative ideas"

Remember, for these folks, neoconservitive is a code word for Jewish.

Jews in America used to be staunch supporters of the Communist party, (even thought, in the Venona Intercepts, the Soviet code name for them was RATS) and the Democrat Party (if you can tell the difference these days). But some of them realized the Communists and Democrats were not their friends, and joined the real world. That is why they are called "neo". Because they are newly escaped for the bondage of Leftist Political Correctness (another Communist concept, now prevalent in our country).

7 posted on 01/17/2004 2:56:32 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: kattracks
Breaking out my liberal to English dictionary we translate;

"certain radical neoconservative ideas"

to;

certain radical jewish ideas

Oh those wacky French. If they aren't winking at anti-semitic violence at home they are b*tching about supposed Jewish conspiracies abroad.
8 posted on 01/17/2004 2:57:12 AM PST by swilhelm73
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To: SubMareener
Thanks. That, at least, makes sense.
9 posted on 01/17/2004 3:27:09 AM PST by patj
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To: kattracks
La Frog said, " Paris had been unfairly "stigmatized" as a "strategic adversary of the United States."

Unfairly? France IS a strategic ENEMY of the United States.

10 posted on 01/17/2004 3:32:47 AM PST by Principled
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Bon Jour, AF - is this French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie a cabinet level appointment? When President Chirac takes his leave from office will there be an opportunity for fresh viewpoints?

Imagine a world where France, Japan, Spain, Italy, Poland, and America stand together against all threats to democracy. You know, with Neocon resolve.
11 posted on 01/17/2004 3:54:33 AM PST by risk
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To: kattracks
The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy strikes again!
12 posted on 01/17/2004 4:09:50 AM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: kattracks
Gee, and they said President Bush would have to go to France, hat-in-hand; look who's begging now Mom...
13 posted on 01/17/2004 5:16:34 AM PST by trebb (Ain't God good . . .)
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To: pt17
Alliot-Marie's claim that Paris had been unfairly stigmatized, and that its cooperation with the USA was quite apparent, was belied by her examples of cooperation which were both laughably weak and passe. Her indulgence in an oblique neoconservative-bashing pleased the gathering of "intellectual" hoi-polloi, but just saying things does not make them so. Grade: C
14 posted on 01/17/2004 7:34:07 AM PST by gaspar
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To: kattracks
Dear Minister Alliot-Marie,

Too late a$$hole.

Regards,

W
15 posted on 01/17/2004 8:02:01 AM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: kattracks
"She said France might consider training Iraqi soldiers and policemen as part of its contribution."

Uh, I don't think the Iraqis want surrender lessons.

16 posted on 01/17/2004 9:35:06 AM PST by etcetera
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To: Principled
"La Frog..."

LOL....too funny!!!!!
17 posted on 01/17/2004 10:23:14 AM PST by Arpege92
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To: kattracks
"certain radical neoconservative ideas"

Like deposing a murderer/dictator who has destabilized (to put mildly) a region vital to American interests? Yeah, real radical.

18 posted on 01/17/2004 10:26:34 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Arpege92
Yes, not "Le Frog"... i had some middle school French!!
19 posted on 01/17/2004 11:22:30 AM PST by Principled
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To: risk
Sorry to reply late ! The weekend has been hectic here, and I did not log in at all.

Yes, Michele Alliot-Marie is a cabinet member, with the full rank of Defense Minister. She's a tough gal, and seems to be doing a nice job of putting the army back into shape, with some financial help from the Prime Minister. We have, at a smaller scale, the same problem the USA have : over-stretching the forces. When you take the ground troops deployed in African countries, plus the French "Blue Helmets" under UN command, that does not leave much at home. Our logistics have to be improved, too, as are our transportation assets to project a militarily credible force overseas. I feel confident we can have both the men and the weapons necessary, the only question will be giving such a force the political green light.

As for Chirac, there are talks about him trying to stay in office 5 more years ! I hope the party leaders will present someone else, maybe Sarkozy.
20 posted on 01/19/2004 8:58:41 AM PST by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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