[libertylass]

This was an exceptional projection of what will occur with the currently proposed Bush immigration plan and what would occur if we stopped using foreign workers. He gives some good examples to prove his points.

[TomServo]

Already posted here.

[cksharks]

He is also high on crack. You would have to pay fifteen dollars an hr to get these lazy ass young kids to work in the fields or work on a roofing crew or on and on. And his little tidbit to geve MORE BENEFITS sounds just like Dean and Kusinich"sp". Check the want ads in any city and say they will take these jobs.

[TLI]

"The result would be a new equilibrium, with blue-collar workers making somewhat better money, but each one of those workers being more productive. ."

RIGHT, they were jobs with wages that ADULT Americans could not survive on, that our kids used to have for spare money.

Now days, the jobs are no longer being confined to that criteria, they are the jobs that American Citizens need to pay morgages, car payments, send kids to college, etc. The illegal mexicans want those jobs. At the better wages. Thoes jobs need to go to AMERICAN CITIZENS.

TLI

[Zipporah]

......the basic assumption is false — there is simply no economic reason to import foreign workers.....

AMEN!!!!!!!!!

[Oatka]

[Aussie method of harvesting raisins]This new method radically reduces labor demand at harvest time and increases yield per acre by up to 200 percent. But this high-productivity, innovative method of production has spread very slowly in the United States because the mass availability of foreign workers has served as a disincentive to farmers to make the necessary capital investment.

Aye, there's the rub. As long as you can get LOTS of cheap labor, why change?
Back in the '70s I lived in the San Joaquin valley where among other things, they grew almonds and walnuts. To harvest them you had to take a long bamboo pole and beat hell out of the tree limbs to knock the ripe nuts down. VERY labor intensive and time-consuming.
I don't know what triggered it, but the geniuses at UC Davis came up with a machine with padded jaws. They'd run that machine up to an almond or walnut tree, clutch it in its "jaws" and then rapidly shake the tree. Ergo, the crop is picked in minutes with one guy and a machine.
Now you can't tell me that American ingenuity cannot do the same with some of these stoop/labor-intensive crops. But Hey, as long as we can get these cheap Mexicans . . .

[noodler]

Suppose it was okay analysis yet over years grows stale. Eventually we arrive here at which we all are picking up spanish words and phrases. Our cities and monuments were not Anglo-friendly when held hostage by blacks. Therefore it seems one way to dissolve or dilute the internal anger and destruction to society some groups imply is to do a clever dilution by a higher-yet-alien culture. Now to the degree the indignant indigenous do not recognise what is going on reduces them in time to the foreign people who will replace them and us in time.