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'The L Word' Has Tongues Wagging - Lesbian "Sex in the City"
Fox News ^ | January 15, 2004 | Kathleen Wereszynski

Posted on 01/15/2004 8:57:09 PM PST by disclaimer

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To: MarcinIN; scripter; little jeremiah; carlson; Digger; CamelRiding4U; claudiustg; EdReform; ...
The soft sell of "The L Word" from the The New York Times article:

Except for the politics and soft-core pornography, "The L Word," Showtime's new series about lesbians that starts on Sunday, is old-fashioned fun — more "Melrose Place" than "Sex and the City."
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All the women are beautiful, which on the one hand works to dismiss the stereotype of lesbians as squat, plaid-shirted and mannish. On the other, they are all so exquisite, even by the high standards of affluent Los Angeles, that it plays into another stereotype — and male fantasy — of the lipstick lesbian.
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The real L word of the show is not lesbianism but loyalty, the fellowship that binds and softens a group of what on the surface appear to be prickly, overly indulged middle-class women. (They drive convertibles, take spinning classes and eat at the trendiest restaurants.) And these female friends are more nuanced and plausible than the stick-figure heroines on HBO's "Sex and the City."

Women Having Sex, Hoping Men Tune In...

61 posted on 01/16/2004 8:52:52 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: All

'The L Word' - the next "Friends" series?
62 posted on 01/16/2004 8:55:55 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Showtime's new series about lesbians that starts on Sunday, is old-fashioned fun

Old fashioned fun. I remember when that consisted of Marcia Brady wondering if her broken nose would heal in time for her date with the BMOC....:)

63 posted on 01/16/2004 9:05:13 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
Mom always said "never play ball in the house".
64 posted on 01/16/2004 9:20:30 PM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: disclaimer
Ground breaking! Provocative! And now good old fashioned fun!

In other words bogus.
65 posted on 01/16/2004 9:29:55 PM PST by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: disclaimer
Even if the show had the acting, writing and production values of a sixties nudie flick, the critics would still be...er...fawning over it.
66 posted on 01/17/2004 1:54:25 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: disclaimer
All the women are beautiful, which on the one hand works to dismiss the stereotype of lesbians as squat, plaid-shirted and mannish.

Yeah, it works until you see the squat, plain-shirted, and mannish Lesbian Avengers show up to protest. That's the only time I've ever heard a group of guys plead with a group of women to put their shirts back on!

67 posted on 01/17/2004 6:00:19 AM PST by FormerLib (We'll fight the good fight until the very end!)
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To: disclaimer
I got rid of my tv over a year ago. I got sick of watching the news channels run the same stories over and over about missing girls, murdered wives and the beltway sniper. I was also disgusted that the alternative was so-called "reality tv". Now, I am ever more confident that I made the right choice. A cable bill would be insulting to receive, if my lousy options included this crap.
68 posted on 01/17/2004 9:43:27 AM PST by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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To: gathersnomoss
"Leave It To Beaver, huh? June to Ward: "Haven't you been a little hard on the Beaver lately?"

.....ROFLMAO.....!!!!!
69 posted on 01/18/2004 10:50:24 AM PST by jaugust ("Give the governor, HARUMPH!!")
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To: disclaimer
If you don't like the idea of this show, don't watch it. If you happen to stumble across it while channel surfing and are offended by what you see - change the channel or turn off the TV. It really is as simple as that.
70 posted on 01/18/2004 4:08:25 PM PST by NCPAC
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If you don't like the idea of this show, don't watch it. If you happen to stumble across it while channel surfing and are offended by what you see - change the channel or turn off the TV. It really is as simple as that.

Thanks for that golden gem of wisdom - oh great deep thinker and cultural answer-man. Did you vote for Gore in that last presidential election?

71 posted on 01/18/2004 7:08:38 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Uh-oh,...if someone disagrees with one's view on things - smear them by asking a loaded question about their political allegiance. Now, THAT is deep.

Do you really want a nanny state deciding what can/can't be shown on commerical television, disclaimer? (Well, maybe you do. A lot of folks who fancy themselves conservative seem to want Uncle Sam holding their hands against the big bad world outside.) Boycott sponsors, turn off the TV, or do what I do - don't watch television at all - but don't deem yourself worthy of deciding what should or shouldn't be available for others to watch.

For the record: My FReep name - NCPAC - stands for National Conservative Political Action Committe. I was their press secretary for two years. I have also worked professionally in campaign/media/advisory roles for Richard Viguerie, Linda Chavez, two conservative media organizations, did press/media relations for numerous Republican candidates at all levels of government, a US Congressman of some reknown, and currently, an elected Republican official whose name I am not at liberty to mention. So, no, I didn't/wouldn't vote for Gore any more than I would dare tell you what you can or can't watch.
72 posted on 01/18/2004 8:06:12 PM PST by NCPAC
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To: NCPAC
Do you really want a nanny state deciding what can/can't be shown on commerical television, disclaimer? (Well, maybe you do. A lot of folks who fancy themselves conservative seem to want Uncle Sam holding their hands against the big bad world outside.) Boycott sponsors, turn off the TV, or do what I do - don't watch television at all - but don't deem yourself worthy of deciding what should or shouldn't be available for others to watch.

A man walking down the street, minding his own business, but fully naked finds himself arrested for this simple act of walking down the street. That's unfair, you say, just look away, you say, if you don't approve and don't care to watch. So eventually the laws against men walking the streets naked are repealed. After a while more and more naked men take to walking the streets - you can't look away without seeing yet another or a reflection in a store front window you sought out as a visual escape. By looking away, your passive inaction allows the nudists and gays exhibitionist to become prominent and accepted in the culture, the culture you call home. Before long sex acts begin to occur in the streets. Look away, you say, it doesn't concern you.

A woman chooses to kill her 'fetus' in the womb, look away you say for it's her own business and none of yours. Do you want this country to be nanny state? - you say. Before long, teenage girls are giving birth to children and leaving them to die in the bathroom where they were born as disrespect for human life takes hold of the culture...

The founding fathers modeled this Republic after God's laws - a civilization based on the Ten Commandments and the bible - God's word. Our laws and culture protected the family as God's law outlined. Not anymore, the family has come under full scale attack. 'The L Word' is another front in the war on the family.

There are absolutes, there is good and there is evil. If you are blind to existence of evil, as a formidable enemy to be conquered, then I expect you to allow evil to manifest itself in our culture while you're looking the other way. Evil seldom barges in the font door announcing itself to all, instead it seduces those inside to invite it in where it suffocates the good.

Look the other way, change the channel. Let the FCC remove regulations on those ever popular four letter swear words, remove the laws on indecent exposure and lewd behavior in the streets as well. We can all just look away as evil seduces the next generation and is invited in to stay.

73 posted on 01/18/2004 10:54:24 PM PST by disclaimer
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To: zarf
How bout a defecation channel
"Hi this has been Hot Carl Camron reporting for the Defication Channel."
74 posted on 01/21/2004 12:09:47 PM PST by Moleman
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To: NCPAC
If you don't like the idea of this show, don't watch it. If you happen to stumble across it while channel surfing and are offended by what you see - change the channel or turn off the TV. It really is as simple as that.


Great example of post #54's boiling frog analogy.
75 posted on 01/22/2004 8:48:43 AM PST by Roughneck (". . .For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth. . .")
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To: Roughneck
Since I believe it is within the individual's power to decided what he/she watches,...somehow this belief equals the boiling frog analogy?! Goodness, if that's not just a bit overstated.

Be strict in your own house - don't expect (or even worse, wish) for the government to be strict for you.
76 posted on 01/22/2004 9:35:13 AM PST by NCPAC
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To: disclaimer
Thank you for your response. You have answered quite clearly that you do want the nanny state deciding what can/can't be show on commercial television. I do appreciate the fact you aren't hiding from your big government (some would mistate it as being "cultural") conservatism. This response is not meant as a flame, though to you it probably sounds like one.
77 posted on 01/22/2004 9:40:34 AM PST by NCPAC
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To: disclaimer
Their circle of beautiful, stylish lesbian friends often meets at the coffee shop to dish about career, family, friends, and of course, sex.

Right; all the lesbians I know are drop dead gorgeous. /sarcasm

Most of them could stop a clock from 100 paces.

Can't wait for the episode that shows the rampant jealousy and physical abuse that is common in the lesbian community.

78 posted on 01/22/2004 10:09:37 AM PST by connectthedots (Don't come to a tank battle with a pen knife)
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She obviously liked kissin the man awhole lot better.

Nahhh, she's no Lesbian. They usually hate men.

sw

79 posted on 01/22/2004 10:14:24 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: NCPAC
You don't appear to see this country as a God fearing Christian nation but a mixed multi-cultural nation where everything is relative there is no right or wrong - a nation of people lacking principle living together without a cohesive moral compass. You sir, are a multi-culturalist and/or a Libertarian, but you not a Conservative. You are in the wrong party.
80 posted on 01/22/2004 12:28:07 PM PST by disclaimer
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