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"...both the Republican and Democratic Parties heed neither public opinion nor their primary governing responsibility to defend and protect the United States, as it relates to illegal immigration."
1 posted on 01/15/2004 7:13:49 PM PST by Kay Soze
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To: Kay Soze
Thus, for different but complementary reasons, neither party is currently disposed to fight hard for a maximum effort to secure our borders from illegal entry.

That is because that "maximum" effort would NEVER be acceptable to the nation. Until people are in fear for their lives by crossing the border nothing will stop them from crossing.

2 posted on 01/15/2004 7:18:24 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Kay Soze
I'm beginning to think that Karl Rove is overly influenced by the big donors. The rank and file tend to be pro-life, but many big donors are pro-abort--so Karl Rove supports pro-abort candidates in California and elsewhere. The rank and file are anti-illegal immigrants, but the big donors want cheap labor--so Karl Rove supports illegal immigration.

It's hard to see why else Bush would be doing this. It's not good for the country, and it's not smart politics as far as getting votes is concerned. Maybe it's big money.
3 posted on 01/15/2004 7:22:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Kay Soze
" Time/CNN poll disclosed 80 percent want the federal government to track down illegal aliens;"

And the media usually frames this 80 percent with the evil "conservative" word.

5 posted on 01/15/2004 7:25:58 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Kay Soze
MEChA Today

Some have suggested that MEChA is just another ethnic pride organization and that its Nazi-like founding documents (e.g El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan) are just a historical relic from the 1960s.



Well, no. Browse the multitude of MEChA chapter websites, like the one at UC Berkeley and you will find that many (if not most) claim that the founding documents are "fundamental" to the organization. Berkeley also indicates that it holds "orientations each semester to educate our membership on MEChA philosophy". What is MEChA philosophy? There is this widely posted document titled "Philosophy of MEChA" which states:

Both El Plan de Aztlan (EPA) and El Plan de Santa Barbara (EPSB) served as the historical foundation for the establishment of a viable Chicana/Chicano Movimento and are therefore fundamental to the M.E.Ch.A. Philosophy
The document confirms that this is all still living, breathing stuff:
This document was last changed or amended in whole or in part by a 2/3 vote at the 1999 National M.E.Ch.A. Conference at Phoenix Community College.

Cruz Bustamante, in defending his former participation in the group, said

The students who are in MEChA today are just like the students when I was there
Fair enough, but what are the students in MEChA like today?

I found the personal website of one recent college graduate and MEChA member. He writes poems, such as this one, called “I am that Chicano”:

( http://students.seattleu.edu/prendej1/chicanoart.html ):

I fought for the US in Vietnam and I will fight the US for Aztlan
Chicanismo is in my veins, it pumps mi corazon, the corazon of a true Chicano
my soul is puro Raza, my past is of the Mexica
and this Chicanos future is Aztlan!

Aztlan, recall, is what the Mechistas call those parts of the southwestern United States that they plan to "liberate" from the United States.
7 posted on 01/15/2004 7:32:46 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Kay Soze
Close your eyes and imagine it's 2030. What do you see?
19 posted on 01/15/2004 7:47:44 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Kay Soze
the GOP's leadership is afraid to risk antagonizing such votes by a secure borders policy.

I think the GOP remembers vividly how Pete Wilson's attack on illegal immigration put California into the Democrap's hands big-time.

21 posted on 01/15/2004 7:59:49 PM PST by expatpat
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To: Kay Soze
This latest immigration initiative of GWB will do to him what the health care fiasco did to Hillary at the beginning of WJC administration!
22 posted on 01/15/2004 8:01:36 PM PST by varon
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To: Kay Soze
Buchanan is not looking so extreme now, is he?
32 posted on 01/15/2004 8:39:54 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Kay Soze
What if they gave an election and nobody came?
33 posted on 01/15/2004 8:40:59 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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45 posted on 01/16/2004 10:34:49 AM PST by gubamyster
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46 posted on 01/16/2004 10:51:26 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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