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To: stylin_geek
Any long gun for home defense is plain silly. Don't believe me...try this....come down the stairs in the dark with a four foot rake handle held in both hands like you would a shotgun. Have someone stronger than you waiting in the darkness. What happens when you turn the corner? One of two things...you either poke the barrel around first and have the weapon wrestled away from you, or you peek around first which requires the weapon to be pointed away from the danger...which of these options appeals to you?

Oh yeah, now imagine it's not a game, your heart is pumping, there really is someone stronger than you waiting in the dark.

Shotguns are fine for standing on your front step and chasing bad guys away, not for close quarter combat in your own living room.

126 posted on 01/15/2004 8:31:07 AM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: wtc911
come down the stairs in the dark with a four foot rake handle held in both hands like you would a shotgun.

Instructions to my wife: DO NOT TRY TO FIND THE INTRUDER - Stay armed in a corner facing the door.

131 posted on 01/15/2004 8:37:23 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: wtc911
The problem here is no defense plan. You need to be able to lock yourself in a secure room with your gun, and with a cell phone to call the police. If you can manage it, a remote switch inside your bedroom that turns on many lights in the home outside your room, and in th yard is also great. Perps flee from light. You are not going to chase the perps in the house. The issue is your life, not chasing the bad guys or keeping aunt betty's vase safe.
132 posted on 01/15/2004 8:37:45 AM PST by RISU
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To: wtc911
I'm not the one who proposed using a shotgun for home defense, I was responding to an earlier post.
148 posted on 01/15/2004 8:48:07 AM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: wtc911
Oh yeah, now imagine it's not a game, your heart is pumping, there really is someone stronger than you waiting in the dark.

A training approximation of this (which no one ever wants to do for some reason) is to leave the gun on on the bench, do a hard 100 yard run (50 yards downrange and 50 yards back), grab the gun off,the bench turn around and aquire and fire on the target. The range needs to be clear of other shooters, of course, and safety routines must be well defined and strictly followed. I've seen reallly expert target shooters completely miss the target with this exercise, with both single and multiple targets and handguns and shotguns.

This is not for beginners or occasional shooters to attempt without truly expert supervision at hand.

150 posted on 01/15/2004 8:49:13 AM PST by templar
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To: wtc911
I agree....at night at home...groggy...I prefer a wheelgun.

24/7 in Injun Cuntry is another matter.....1911 style sidearm and maybe an FN-LAR or Bushy or HK...whatever.


Office Gun: Taurus 99 with a 30 round extenda clip...feels like a Mac.

Bedside for Daddy: insta punch safe with .45 Long Colt Vaquero or matching .44 Mag or NAM .380 Guardian if all is lost..lol

Bedside for Mrs. Daddy: Smith and Wesson .28 alloy 342PD (11oz, a whipsnaaper)

Within a few leaps: Big Guns

All firearms loaded with flesh rounds not target.
257 posted on 01/15/2004 12:41:31 PM PST by wardaddy ("either the arabs are at your throat, or at your feet")
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