excepting the ones that make up 30% of the prison population of the western states.
No Blood for Lettuce!
Click here and here for lists of crimes committed by illegal aliens.
Posted on 01/15/2004 1:14:05 AM PST by dennisw
THERE ARE TWO THINGS to be said about President Bush's new plan for dealing with illegal immigrants. The first is that the plan reflects a beautiful sentiment. Immigrants slip into the United States illegally for all the right reasons. They want to find jobs, raise families, and decide their own destiny. They enrich America with their energy and their enthusiasm for freedom. This country would be far worse off without them.
The second thing to say about the Bush plan? It won't work. It doesn't stand a chance for two reasons. Illegal immigrants who would get special working permits for three years are never going back to their home countries. And the existence of a reward for illegally coming to America, namely the working permit, is bound to spur unlawful immigration, not curtail it.
In Mexico on Monday, Bush insisted he "expects that most temporary workers will eventually return permanently to their home countries." But why would they? Once they've held a job and received some of the benefits of American citizenship--such as a driver's license and the right to travel freely back and forth to their native country--they aren't likely to leave here willingly. The blessings of America are simply too attractive, the life too comfortable. It would defy human nature for them to migrate home voluntarily.
Nor would they be deported. At the moment, there are 8 million illegal immigrants in this country. So far as I can tell, there is no concerted effort by the Immigration and Naturalization Service to toss them out. Sure, the Border Patrol has been beefed up and more illegal immigrants are stopped at the border. But once they're in, they're pretty much left alone by authorities. Obviously the INS could find many of them if it wanted to. It doesn't. The job is too big and deportation too brutal a process.
The only exception is if illegal immigrants are seen as potential terrorists. But this applies to only a tiny number of immigrants and many of them are here legally (or at least they entered the country legally and then stayed after their visa expired). Most illegal immigrants come from Mexico or Central America and aren't terrorist threats. Getting them to leave is an extremely low priority for authorities. The bottom line is: We don't throw out many illegal immigrants anymore.
As for luring more illegal immigrants, the Bush plan would make America an even more lovely destination than it already is. As things stand now, illegal immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes with little hope of participating in those programs in their elderly years. Nor can they get drivers' licenses or green cards. But the Bush plan would change all that.
Consider how the proposed plan would be seen by a poor but ambitious young man in Mexico. He knows that getting in line for legal immigration would probably never get him to America and that staying in the United States on an illegal basis has its drawbacks. But now there's a legal alternative: Get across the border, find a job (a menial, entry level job will do), and sign up for a 3-year work permit that's renewable. This is quite an incentive. If the Bush plan passes, word will spread fast that now's the time to get to the United States any way you can.
AGAIN, let's applaud the thinking that underpins the Bush plan. And let's praise illegal immigrants for their moxie in getting here and making America a better country. But let's not have any illusions about the practical impact of the plan, which is that more will come and few will leave.
Fred Barnes is executive editor of The Weekly Standard.
Let's not.
The idea is continue to supply cheap labor to business and people who need servants...and to hell with those who are hurt by the down side; those who have to pay for the schooling and health-care of the immigrants, those who have to tolerate their crime and uncivilized behavior on a daily basis.
excepting the ones that make up 30% of the prison population of the western states.
Click here and here for lists of crimes committed by illegal aliens.
Amen, Amen, and Amen! I'm with you both in your thinking. Fred Barnes needs to come visit me in Dallas; I'll show him plenty of uncivilized aliens who enrich us NOT! Last night, for the umpteenth time since 10 of them moved into one house, my Mexican neighbors held a party on the lawn--at nearly 11pm. I ask them to stop the noise, but they don't speak English--as most of them don't really care about assimilating anyway; they just care about making money and having babies and having someone else pick up their medical bills (at least it is so in my neighborhood). To make matters worse, on a daily basis I have to pick up their broken beer bottles (thrown in my flwer beds and often on the sidewalks--shattered) as well as the caps and cig. butts.Postscript: In the last year, I have alerted the INS no fewer than five times about this situation, but I've yet to have a response.On Tuesday, a White House volunteer for the comments line revealed inadvertently that phone calls to the White House opposing GWB's plan are nearly unprecedented in number and in angry tone.
Best regards,
Penny
I replied with a true take on what the LEGAL immigrants in my circle of acquaintances are saying:
Every immigrant I know, and I know many, who are green carded professionals at a teaching medical university. I’m talking physicians of every level from faculty to intern, from every corner of the world; South America, Indian Subcontinent, Asians, Middle Easterners. The majority who are political lean to the Left.
Being legal, and easily locatable, every one of them is constantly occupied with INS red tape and other miscellaneous Federal harassment.
These people are incensed that Bush is granting Amnesty to all these illegals when they have to put all the BS that they do.
Again, some I’m speaking of are medical university professors who have been in the U.S. for years saving lives and educating new doctors.
So the ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO HAVE VIOLATED AT LEAST FOUR LAWS TO EVEN BE HERE are offended and insulted, are they?
Well so are the LEGAL ones.
I am unable to speak for victims on the lists I provided the links to, but I would assume that the surviving ones are offended that their government knowingly left laws unenforced which would have protected them.
Ain’t that wonderful? At least everyone can agree on one thing, we are all offended.
I tend to agree with you. Up until now, Washington has barely acknowledged to issue. I wouldn't expect the first plan to work well without some serious modification. My emotional reaction to illegals is to 'throw'em out and seal the borders', but this is a practical impossibility.
Just as an aside, I wonder what would happen if crowds of Anglos went to Mexico and started buying bunches of property?
How much more compliant can a Congress be? Name one proposal sent by the WH that hasn't been implemented. Name one use of the Veto on any piece of legislation coming from that same Congress. Blackbird.
Can't be done. The most you can hope for is to be a squatter. Gringo's can't own property in Mexico. Blackbird.
If he is so enamoured of these people why go on and take apart the Bush plan? Does he have something else in mind?
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