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Mount Washington (NH) Weather Center (NE cold snap)
Mount Washington Weather Center (NH) ^ | 01/14/04 | Jeff De Rosa - Observer

Posted on 01/14/2004 6:29:54 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo

Mt. Washington New Hampshire Observatory report: 7:08 PM EST

Temp -28.5°F Wind West @61 MPH Gusts of 63 MPH Wind Chill-72°F

Observer's Comments:

07:08 PM Wed Jan 14, 2004 EST Our phones have been ringing all day today with inquiries of our temperatures. Yes it is cold up here, even by our standards. Over the past twenty four hours, the lowest wind chill was 102 degrees below zero... but I can tell you, it felt more like 500 below to me! Once again we have recorded a new record low today of 45 degrees below zero. Now our focus shifts to Thursday night, when a low moves by while intensifying over the Canadian Maritimes, driving even more cold air into the region. There have been talks of fifty degrees below zero Fahrenheit, which would break New Hampshire's state record low of minus 47, which was set up here in 1934. Wow, was it really this past June that we tied our own record high of 72 degrees?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: mountwashington; mtwashingtonnh; northeastcoldspell
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To: RightWhale
It's always 100 below at Mount Washington. Wind chill, of course.

I'm a little sceptical of wind chill, it's kind of like an exaggerated temp.

Esp. in the mountains in winter, you're always wearing windproof everything, so wind chill is really a non-issue.

Used to wear rubber painter's gloves (like surgical gloves but thicker and much cheaper) under polartec liners, my hands were toasty all day but shriveled like prunes. Some people (esp Mountain Rescue) wear VBL (vapor barrier liner) underwear but I never went that far. Knew some of the Mountain Rescue guys who absolutely swear by it. Oh yeah, plastic grocery bags on the feet, followed by socks and books. Same principle, cheapskate's VBL but extremely effective.

21 posted on 01/14/2004 7:12:37 PM PST by angkor
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To: NewHampshireDuo

22 posted on 01/14/2004 7:16:52 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: cmsgop
I believe that you are living under the Oregon flag???

I love Oregon, but doesn't everyone from California.
23 posted on 01/14/2004 7:48:39 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Interesting facts on this thread:

Observatory get down safely after a fire on the summit (Spectacular Mt Washington NH Blaze)

Highest wind speeds on Mount Washington: All wind records in the United States, except those involving tornados, have been set on Mount Washington:

Peak gust: 103.6 meters per second (231 miles per hour), April 12,1934.

Highest 5-minute average: 84.2 m/s (188 mph), April 12, 1934.

Highest 24-hour average 57.2 m/s (128 mph), April 11-12, 1934.

Highest monthly average: 31.1 m/s (70 mph), February 1939.

Highest annual average 15.6 m/s (35 mph), 1934 and 1983.

The National Weather Service reported a wind gust of 236 miles per hour on Guam on Dec. 17, 1997. That is the highest non-tornado wind speed yet recorded.

24 posted on 01/14/2004 10:49:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I drove up the auto road to the top of Mt. Washington once. Never again! I was white as a ghost and didn't want to drive down since everyone was saying going down was worse than driving up.

Fortunately, I thought it the other way around. Going down wasn't near as bad to me.
25 posted on 01/14/2004 10:51:08 PM PST by Fledermaus (Please Mr. Bush, don't make me a one issue voter based totally on the war on Islamic fascism.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
I feel pretty good knowing that it's only going to be -9 degrees below 0 with a wind chill of -20 degrees down here where I live in Southern NH tonight.

Thank goodness for Global Warming(TM). Just think how cold it could have been!

26 posted on 01/14/2004 10:55:12 PM PST by mikegi
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To: angkor
"Oh yeah, plastic grocery bags on the feet, followed by socks and books"

I presume paperbacks are more comfortable than hardcover.

Nik
27 posted on 01/14/2004 10:57:39 PM PST by Nik Naym
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To: ECM
Horrible all the suffering we have to go through, isn't it?
28 posted on 01/14/2004 10:58:04 PM PST by kingu (Remember: Politicians and members of the press are going to read what you write today.)
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To: mikegi
That's exactly what I was going to say! :-)

I now expect those New England environazis to change their tune on global warming!

29 posted on 01/15/2004 12:13:47 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Nik Naym
"Oh yeah, plastic grocery bags on the feet, followed by socks and books"

I presume paperbacks are more comfortable than hardcover.

Hah. Of course. And don't forget your Eddie Bean Down-Filled Canoe Hat.

Boots. Not books. Boots.

30 posted on 01/15/2004 4:43:56 AM PST by angkor
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Back in 1970 I was in Fairbanks Alaska

It was -45 and wind chill of -75

I had to drive 150 miles to Delta Junction that morning

Needless to say I was hoping the car didn't break down

Saw NO other vehicles the entire trip
31 posted on 01/15/2004 5:56:14 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I hope the Colts bring their Thermies with them. They're gonna need them.

It could be much worse, though. Right now, the gametime forecast is about 30 degrees with a chance of snow shower.

32 posted on 01/15/2004 6:05:54 AM PST by BlackRazor
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To: angkor
...plastic grocery bags on the feet, followed by socks and books [sic]...

impermeable plastic right against the skin? not a good idea! wear a sock, THEN the bag, then the boo[t]. you always want to keep a layer of air next to the skin with the sock to wick-away the moisture. if your skin is soggy-wet from being inside a bag, in the cold, you're only leading yourself toward bigger problems.

33 posted on 01/15/2004 6:07:22 AM PST by solitas (sleep well, gentle reader; but remember there ARE such things...)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Its +2 F down here in the New England tropics (Connecticut). I'm originally from Minnesota, so this is no big deal. However, we're supposed to get -40 wind chill tonight. That's cold for anybody.

Put gas in the car before it gets dark but then stay indoors. If you have to go out, be prepared for car trouble (bring cell phone, blankets and other things to keep warm). If you have to park your car outside for more than a couple of hours, bring the battery inside with you (most people in New England do not have engine block heaters).
34 posted on 01/15/2004 6:07:40 AM PST by kidd
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To: solitas
impermeable plastic right against the skin? not a good idea! ... you always want to keep a layer of air next to the skin with the sock to wick-away the moisture.

I don't want a flame war over this, but the entire point of VBL is to prevent "wick-away [of] the moisture." You want to completely stop perspiration from entering insulating layers and making them less effective as insulation.

Wearing a wicking layer against the skin as you suggest - followed by VBL - won't defeat that purpose, but it won't help either. This wicking layer you suggest can't wick moisture anywhere but back into itself, since moisture cannot escape the outer VBL layer. So what's the point? You end up with a soaked and soggy "wicking layer" against your skin, and it's not wicking anything.

I've tested VBL in many configurations under severe conditions (mostly in the Presidentials of NH, -0F to -30F) and I know what works. My pals would be wearing $150 Goretex mitts with thick fleece liners and still be cold, I'd be wearing painter's utility gloves (my VBL) with thin polypro glove liners on top and be perfectly warm. I know that at least one Mountain Rescue guy started wearing a VBL undershirt - yes, directly on the skin - based on our outings.

VBL is very counterintutive (which is why most people don't use it), so you've got to test it out in real conditions.

35 posted on 01/15/2004 7:19:19 AM PST by angkor
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Webcam Page:

http://www.mountwashington.org/cam/index.php

PICTURE.........Currently on the OBSERVATION DECK (-41 F with Wind Chill):

http://www.mountwashington.org/cam/deck/index.php

36 posted on 01/20/2004 10:53:42 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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