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Wash-to-London Passenger(caught after arrival) Carrying Ammo
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| 1-14-04
| CNSNews
Posted on 01/14/2004 12:09:00 PM PST by OXENinFLA
Washington-to-London Passenger Carrying Ammo
(CNSNews.com) - A Sudanese man who boarded a Virgin Airlines flight in Washington, was later arrested at London's Heathrow airport - for carrying ammunition, police said. "A quantity of suspected ammunition was found in his possession," wire reports quoted a police statement as saying. "The items are being forensically examined," the statement continued. "The man was arrested under Section 1 of the Firearms Act and has been taken to Heathrow Police station where he is being interviewed." Press reports quoted Virgin Airlines as saying that the items seized did not pose a threat to the aircraft, but the question remains - how did the passenger manage to circumvent security at Washington Dulles International Airport? The 45-year-old Sudanese man was detained at Heathrow, while transferring to a British Airways flight for Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates.
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Virginia; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; ammo; ba; caught; iad; lhr; sudan; virginatlantic
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WHAT@!!!
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:09:00 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
2
posted on
01/14/2004 12:10:38 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
A quantity of suspected ammunitionDefine "quantity", please.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:11:59 PM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: OXENinFLA
1) Great job on the part of the Brits!!
2) WTF happened in WDC? Any questions on why TSA screeners aren't union employees?
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:13:04 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Dean, Clark, Deadwards, Kerry - If were an Iowan, I'd vote Opis in '04.)
To: OXENinFLA
"The items are being forensically examined," Is they is, or is they ain't bullets?
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:13:25 PM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: OXENinFLA
Heard 2 versions:
1. Five rounds of ammo.
2. Five pounds of ammo.
Which?
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:13:57 PM PST
by
verity
To: .cnI redruM
WTF happened in WDC? Yeah, Someone BETTER lose their job over this!
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:15:30 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
One way to get a gun aboard is to disassemble it and spread the part among multiple persons. Glocks would be ideal. One person has the barrel inside a metal frame, another has the lower (not likely to show up in a scan), another has the slide hidden in a ordinary metal object, etc.
Once past security the group convenes and assembles the weapon.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:16:12 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
To: verity
My guess would be 5 rounds, like my revolver carries.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:16:30 PM PST
by
OXENinFLA
To: OXENinFLA
Man Carrying Bullets Held After U.S.-London Flight
By Andrew Cawthorne
LONDON (Reuters) - British police arrested a Sudanese man under anti-terror laws for carrying bullets at Heathrow airport Wednesday after flying in from Washington en route to Dubai.
Police originally arrested the man for firearms offenses but then said they were holding him under section 41 of the anti-terror law, which refers to the "alleged involvement in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism."
They gave no further details.
The 45-year-old man was detained after passing through a security check at 7:40 a.m. following his arrival on British airline Virgin Atlantic's VS022 flight.
"A quantity of suspected ammunition was found in his possession. The items are being forensically examined," said a statement from London's Scotland Yard police.
Security sources at Heathrow said the man had five bullets of two different types.
Security has been especially tight at Heathrow and other big world airports in recent weeks, with U.S.-bound flights from Britain, France and Mexico grounded amid fears of a plot by extremists to carry out another Sept. 11-style attack.
Copenhagen airport acted Wednesday to remove sharp cutlery from one of its restaurants after a journalist entered a plane with a knife almost the same size as the one that killed Sweden's Foreign Minister Anna Lindh, a Danish newspaper said.
SPOTLIGHT ON DULLES
With the U.S. administration eager to see security beefed up at other airports round the world, Wednesday's incident raised questions as to how the man managed to get past security checks at Dulles airport in Washington.
"Doubtless questions are being asked in America as to how he got through their ground security and onto the plane," said Jim McAuslan, general secretary of the British Airline Pilots' Association.
Virgin airline said in a statement: "The safety and welfare of our passengers and crew is Virgin Atlantic's top priority.
"The item seized did not pose a threat to our aircraft. Screening of passengers at Washington Dulles airport is the responsibility of the Transportation Security Administration."
The incident comes at a jittery time for the airline industry, with a string of flight cancellations and delays hitting Heathrow particularly badly.
Washington is demanding that airlines carry armed marshals on some planes and has begun fingerprinting and photographing foreigners at more than 100 airports.
McAuslan of the British pilots' group said, "We have always said that what matters most is security on the ground and that's where the government should be investing. We should not be led into a cul-de-sac of sky marshals.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:17:57 PM PST
by
TheDon
(Have a Happy New Year!)
To: TheDon
Security sources at Heathrow said the man had five bullets of two different types. This just keeps getting stranger.
Note the reporter's lack of gun knowledge, shouldn't that be "two different calibers"?
Comment #12 Removed by Moderator
To: OXENinFLA
Oh yeah! start with the shift-leader and start finding out why that happened. About 10 firings would be an adequate example to others.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:28:31 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Dean, Clark, Deadwards, Kerry - If were an Iowan, I'd vote Opis in '04.)
To: Puppage
>>>
A quantity of suspected ammunition...<<< >>>
Define "quantity", please.<<< Define "suspected ammunition". Is that "alleged" ammunition? Or is it possibly a casing and bullet with no powder?
Come on you journalists - "ammunition " is never suspect....it either fits in a gun or it isn't meant to fit in a gun and therefore isn't ammunition! Geeze - how hard is the English language to master anyway?
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:36:11 PM PST
by
HardStarboard
(Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
To: OXENinFLA; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Shooter 2.5; Travis McGee; Chad Fairbanks; nopardons; ...
First of all, a "bullet" is only the projectile.
The reporter must mean 5 "cartridges".
Five "cartridges" of two different types could mean two different cartridge manufactures or reloaders or it could mean two different types of bullets in the same caliber of cartridge or it could also mean two completely different calibers of cartridges.
Example #1 - Federal or Winchester
Example #2 - Hollowpoint or Full Metal Jacket
Example #3 - .357 Magnum or 9mm
The media usually knows less than nothing about firearms and ammo.
(your fps may vary!)
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:39:38 PM PST
by
autoresponder
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To: OXENinFLA
The solution...pat down more old white ladies and retired military personel. The ammo was most certainly stashed either in a retiree's wheel chair or in an ex-officers Polydent container.
Now I feel much more secure. Thanks fella's.
To: HardStarboard
how hard is the English language to master anyway?Apparently, harder than molding a story to fit an agenda, I would say.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:40:12 PM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
To: .cnI redruM
And just how do you fire unionized government lackies?
To: gathersnomoss
That's why TSA screeners are NOT unionized. SO that you CAN fire them.
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:42:57 PM PST
by
.cnI redruM
(Dean, Clark, Deadwards, Kerry - If were an Iowan, I'd vote Opis in '04.)
To: AdamSelene235
"Once past security the group convenes and assembles the weapon"
The next sound you hear will be a knock on your door to investigate you! Just kidding--
Carolyn
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posted on
01/14/2004 12:42:58 PM PST
by
CDHart
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