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Guns vs. Teddy Bears
NRO ^ | January 13, 2004 | Tim Wheeler & Dave Kopel

Posted on 01/13/2004 8:44:08 PM PST by neverdem

There's no competition when it comes to regulation.

Should unelected officials be allowed to order the confiscation of some or all guns and ammunition in the United States? This is the question posed by Sen. Jon Corzine (D., N.J.) and Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D., R.I.), in their proposed Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act. As one might suspect, the bill is about neither firearm safety nor consumer protection, but is an especially clever stratagem by the gun-prohibition lobby. The Kennedy-Corzine bill would give the Treasury Department and the courts nearly unlimited powers to restrict firearms manufacture and sales, and to confiscate guns.

The bill is premised on the gun-control activists' claim that guns are an unregulated consumer product. Teddy bears, they preach, are more heavily regulated than guns; though anyone who has tried to buy a gun lately would probably disagree. For example, there is no federal agency like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) that licenses teddy-bear manufacturers, wholesalers, and vendors. Teddy-bear stores do not have to keep permanent records on all their customers, and make those records available for government inspection.

You don't need permission from the FBI to buy a teddy bear, but you do if you want to buy a gun. No other consumer product requires federal-government approval for every single retail transaction.

The Supreme Court accurately characterizes the gun trade as a "pervasively regulated business" (United States v. Biswell, 1972). Thus gun stores, but not teddy-bear stores, are subject to warrant-less inspection by federal agents, notwithstanding the Fourth Amendment requirement that searches are only allowed with a warrant based upon probable cause.

It's not as though no one ever thought of setting safety standards for guns and ammunition. The original consumer safety regulations for American firearms were the standards set for the industry by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI), an industry trade association. SAAMI was created in 1926, pursuant to a request from the federal government. SAAMI has promulgated over 700 standards, which are updated every five years. SAAMI standards are examined and reviewed by the American National Standards Institute (ANSI) and by the National Institute of Standards and Technology.

Although SAAMI standards are not legally binding, manufacturers bidding for government contracts must meet the standards, since the FBI, the U.S. military, and many state or local government agencies often require that procured firearms meet SAAMI specifications.

Of course Congress and the state legislatures enact all sorts of "gun-safety" laws. The federal "assault-weapons" law bans over 200 models of firearms. (Most of the guns are banned by the generic "assault-weapon" definition, rather than by being specifically named.) Some states ban small, inexpensive "junk guns"). Federal and state laws require a variety of safety information to be supplied by gun stores, and some states require consumers to take a test or pass a class before purchasing a handgun. So the legislative branch — that is, the law-making branch — is certainly capable of passing laws that it thinks will promote gun safety.

SAAMI standards should satisfy true consumer advocates. Seeking additional legislation is the proper approach for people who want additional restrictions. But gun-prohibition activists have realized that most Americans believe they have a right to own guns, and a right not to have their property confiscated. Because legislators have to answer to their constituents, passing gun-prohibition laws is difficult even in states such as New York and California. Gun confiscation is even more difficult to enact. Hence the campaign to authorize unelected bureaucrats to confiscate guns — under the guise of consumer safety.

The first effort to set up bureaucrat-based gun prohibition came shortly after the creation of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. In 1975, congressmen from Illinois and Michigan tried to push an amendment that would give the CPSC the power to control and ban guns and ammunition. Members of Congress lined up to excoriate the amendment's authors for their attempt at back-door gun prohibition. The Congressional Record from July 29, 1975, documents the comments from outraged representatives:

Representative Ketchum (California): "The issue of gun control is one which must be decided by Congress, as the elected representatives of the people. It would be an absolute outrage to give this kind of authority to a Federal bureaucracy." Representative Dingell (Michigan): "The amendment gives CPSC the right to test every firearm and every round of ammunition and to issue all manner of regulations, harassing the firearms manufacturers, harassing sportsmen, harassing licensed firearms dealers, and generally getting their nose into those things that the Congress said they should not get their nose into."

Representative Evans (Indiana): "Mr. Chairman, I have received more letters from my constituents on the issue of banning handgun ammunition as a hazardous substance than perhaps any other matter. The people in the sixth district were irate that the Commission was considering, in effect, handgun control by a back-door method."

Congress reacted by passing legislation in 1976 that explicitly denied the CPSC authority over firearms and ammunition. The 1975-76 debate showed that the proponents of administrative gun prohibition could not show any real problem of gun injuries from improper labeling of guns or ammunition. In the three decades since that debate, accidental gun-related injuries and deaths have plummeted — proving that prohibition imposed by a federal bureaucracy is not the only path to ever-greater safety.

Take true consumer-product safety advocates, who would target defective guns. For example, if a bullet gets stuck in the firing chamber, the energy gunpowder explosion will not travel down the gun barrel, but will be directed outward in all directions from the firing chamber — destroying the gun, and possibly injuring the shooter's hand. Such malfunctions are what the SAAMI standards prevent.

Importantly, tort lawsuits are available if a manufacturer makes guns or ammunition which malfunction dangerously. Such lawsuits have helped drive some low-quality manufacturers out of the market, and the potential of such lawsuits provides a continuing incentive for manufacturers to maintain high quality control.

Most states have enacted tort-reform laws to restrict junk lawsuits against gun companies, and federal legislation passed the House this summer. Neither the state nor the federal reforms restrict product-liability suits for guns which really are defective.

The social problem with guns does not involve mislabeling or malfunctions: The problem involves people who deliberately misuse firearms. Likewise, the problem of criminals driving cars to escape from the scene of convenience-store robberies does not involve defective car design; it involves deliberate misuse of a properly functioning product. Robberies and gun crimes are serious problems, but they are criminal-justice problems, not product-regulation problems.

Yet now, the Kennedy-Corzine bill would authorize administrative bans on guns and ammunition. It is a founded on the 1970s campaign for administrative gun prohibition, except that the Treasury Department, rather than the Consumer Product Safety Commission, would have the gun-banning power. All it would take is a Democratic president (Howard Dean excepted) to make the right appointments, and the gun-prohibition juggernaut would roll.

The Kennedy-Corzine bill is loaded with special clauses that make it especially dangerous, even beyond the obvious danger of authorizing firearms prohibition.

It applies to firearms accessories, and thus would set the stage for the prohibition of laser sights. Laser sights have become very popular in the last decade, as their price has declined. Pro- and anti-rights activists agree that such sights make it significantly easier for the shooter to fire the gun accurately under intense time pressure — as in a self-defense situation. Since the antigun movement is founded on the premise that it is immoral to use guns for self-defense unless you are a government employee, laser sights are anathema to them.

The Kennedy-Corzine bill also applies to airguns, such as the Daisy Red Ryder BB gun. Antigun activists in Canada, the U.K., and other nations have imposed severe restrictions on hundreds of models of such guns, and Kennedy-Corzine would allow similar restrictions in the United States. BB gun opponents refer to the guns as "non-powder firearms," although the term is an oxymoron. A firearm uses fire (the gunpowder explosion); something which is powered only by compressed air can be a gun (which shoots an object down a barrel), but it cannot be a "firearm."

Not only would the Treasury be allowed to prohibit the future manufacture and sale of some or all guns, it would also be allowed to "recall" guns — that is, to confiscate some or all guns currently in private hands. No compensation would be paid to the owners.

A Treasury official would be authorized to take "emergency action" to ban or confiscate guns, without having to comply with normal administrative procedures — such as those that require public comment before the promulgation of a rule, or which require public notice before a rule is created.

And most important of all, Kennedy-Corzine allows private enforcement of the Act. This means that even if Tom Delay were the secretary of the Treasury, a gun-ban group could sue in a sympathetic court (perhaps in New York City or San Francisco), and a single federal judge could order gun confiscation, prohibit gun manufacture, or do almost anything else he wanted to eliminate or restrict gun ownership.

Putting aside the merits of gun policy, and ignoring the Second Amendment, we are still left a fundamental question: Since Article I of the U.S. Constitution gives "all legislative powers herein granted" to the Congress, why should unelected officials in the executive branch be given the power to ban guns which Congress has not voted to ban? It violates the text of the Constitution for Congress to delegate law-making power to executive-branch agencies such as the CPSC. Moreover, allowing Congress to delegate law making to administrative agencies allows Congress to dodge tough decisions, as detailed in David Schoenbrod's fine book, Power Without Responsibility: How Congress Abuses the People through Delegation.

Under the Constitution, it is supposed to be hard to make new laws; the proposed law must be passed by the House of Representatives, by the Senate, and then signed by the president (or re-passed by two-thirds of each house of Congress over the President's veto).

By making it difficult to impose new laws, the Founders created a system in which liberty would be the norm, and restraint would be the exception. But law making by executive agencies inverts the whole process; a single bureaucrat, with the wave of his pen, creates new laws. Then, victims of the new restriction carry the difficult burden of trying to get Congress to pass a law to remove the infringement on liberty.

An additional liberty protection implicit in the Constitution's grant of law-making power to Congress alone is that there are a finite number of hours in the day. If only Congress can make the laws, then we will have only as many laws as Congress has the time to pass. Delegation, though, enables hundreds of executive-branch agencies to make laws, even while Congress is adjourned.

Foisting the hard choices off onto federal agencies undermines democracy, since a person who does not like a congressional vote can vote against the congressman in the next election, but no one can vote against a bureaucrat.

For most of our country's history, Congress did not attempt to give its law-making power to the executive branch. In the few instances when Congress did, the Supreme Court said "no." For example, in 1935 a unanimous Supreme Court struck down the National Industrial Recovery Act, which a delegated to President Roosevelt and his National Recovery Administration the authority to regulate the entire economy (Schecter Poultry Corp. v. United States).

But a few years later, the Court, under intense political pressure from the Roosevelt administration, abandoned its constitutional duty of enforcing the separation of powers between the legislative and executive branches. As a result, the volume of laws unconstitutionally made by the executive branch (which are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations) is roughly four times larger than the volume of laws constitutionally created by Congress (contained in the United States Code).

Several years ago, Sen. Sam Brownback (R., Kan.) and Rep. J. D. Hayworth (R., Ariz.) proposed legislation to specify that no new administrative regulation would go into effect unless Congress voted to implement it. Such legislation would be a gigantic step forward for strict and appropriate enforcement of the Constitution. Just as the mere risk of gun prohibition by the CPSC in 1975 spurred Congress to take protective measures, the new Kennedy-Corzine bill suggests that citizens who are serious about the Second Amendment should also get serious about enforcing Article I.

— Timothy Wheeler, M.D., is director of Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership, a project of the Claremont Institute. Dave Kopel is co-author of the new book Supreme Court Gun Cases.


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Backdoor gun control is not going to pass anytime soon, IMHO. But these rats never quit.
1 posted on 01/13/2004 8:44:08 PM PST by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; Joe Brower
BANG
2 posted on 01/13/2004 8:45:36 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Protection of the 2nd Amendment seems to, all too often, require "proctologial gun control"; you know - shooting down some congress critter's a$$hole gun proposal.

Don't any of those nasty things ever read things like this:
"That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms..." ~Samuel Adams, 1788
3 posted on 01/13/2004 8:54:47 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: dd5339; Vic3O3
Hide you teddy bears!!!!
4 posted on 01/13/2004 9:27:07 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Coffee, the elixir of life..or something resembling life.)
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To: neverdem
that kind of stuff is frightening. The idea that some activist judge could rule for immediate confiscation is terrible.

Of course depending on the situation of things that are going on when it happens. That particular judge may find themselves "recalled" by a rooftop election and most of his/her cronies quaking in their boots.

I would like to believe, perhaps mistakenly, that any such order would result in people arming up and telling the clowns, "Come get them". But in my heart I know that the majority would roll over and hand them in as long as they had food, central heat/air and cable TV.
5 posted on 01/13/2004 9:39:13 PM PST by BudgieRamone (Unapologetically Male: I eat, sleep, shoot, drink, use power tools, and water my herbs & orchids :))
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To: *bang_list
*bang_list
6 posted on 01/14/2004 5:01:59 AM PST by SJackson
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To: neverdem
But these rats never quit.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

BTW this push by the anti's is nothing new. I debated one who tried to use the "guns are less regulated than teddy bears" argument over four years ago.

7 posted on 01/14/2004 5:07:33 AM PST by gieriscm (The AW ban sunsets on 09/13/2004)
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To: neverdem
While it's important to never become complacent about gun control. This proposal by Kennedy, Schumer etc. will never even make it out of committee, at least any time in the forseeable future. This is just red meat to the gun control lobby, the same as the Articles of Impeachment against president Bush that the group of anti-war congressmen toss out every once in a while for some media attention.

We in the pro-gun community should remain dilligent but not get distracted by legislation that will never see the light of day. Our top priorities for this year should be to press for passage of lawsuit preemption and make sure the assault weapon ban sunsets as scheduled. Both of these look very likely to happen, since even the anti-gun democrats are either acting pro-gun or just keeping their mouth shut.
8 posted on 01/14/2004 5:14:22 AM PST by apillar
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; ...
Another lengthy but well-considered piece from David Kopel.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

9 posted on 01/14/2004 5:29:38 AM PST by Joe Brower ("If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever." - G. Orwell)
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To: neverdem
The Kennedys and Corzines of this country aim to either wear us down or sneak something through under cover of darkness.

They need to be removed from office.

10 posted on 01/14/2004 5:51:42 AM PST by Gritty ("A villain plots evil with deceit in his heart; disaster will overtake him in an instant"-Proverbs 6)
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To: BudgieRamone
I'd hate to be in that judges shoes if he or she did make such a ruling. I'd pity the fool that comes to my home to take my guns as well.

Mike

11 posted on 01/14/2004 6:08:11 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: BudgieRamone
"That particular judge may find themselves "recalled" by a rooftop election and most of his/her cronies quaking in their boots."


LOL!!
12 posted on 01/14/2004 6:14:34 AM PST by BayouCoyote (PORK AKBAR!!)
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To: neverdem
bump to read later
13 posted on 01/14/2004 6:15:12 AM PST by Badray
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To: BudgieRamone
"I would like to believe, perhaps mistakenly, that any such order would result in people arming up and telling the clowns, 'Come get them'. But in my heart I know that the majority would roll over and hand them in as long as they had food, central heat/air and cable TV."

Don't be too sure of that. I am confident that enough true partiots would rise up against such an assault on our liberties, so much so that the oppressors who sought to strip us of our freedoms would decide it wasn't worth the risk to their own selfish hides. I am reasonably confident that among the American citizenry, there are at least 10% who would rise to the occasion. And I am also confident most of our military forces would side with the patriots.
14 posted on 01/14/2004 6:33:34 AM PST by ought-six
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To: BudgieRamone
But in my heart I know that the majority would roll over and hand them in as long as they had food, central heat/air and cable TV.

They would also probably support rounding up those who didn't. Terrorists, they'd call them. We're in a War now, y'know. Things are different since 9/11.

15 posted on 01/14/2004 6:39:14 AM PST by templar
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To: ought-six
I am reasonably confident that among the American citizenry, there are at least 10% who would rise to the occasion. And I am also confident most of our military forces would side with the patriots.

I hope you're right. But ... call me jaded if you like ... I'd be surprised if 1/10 of 1% would even seriously consider any real resistance. And I'd expect the same thing from the military as I saw at Waco. There may be a very small number of normal gun owners (excluding the skin head types and such) that would defiantly go out and bury there arms somewhere, effectively disposing of them as they slowly were lost to rust and forgetfullness, but that's about it.

16 posted on 01/14/2004 6:46:12 AM PST by templar
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To: neverdem
Should unelected officials be allowed to order the confiscation of some or all guns and ammunition in the United States?

The answer is clearly "NO!" But would anyone feel better if elected officials ordered confiscation?

17 posted on 01/14/2004 7:17:04 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: neverdem
All it would take is a Democratic president (Howard Dean excepted) to make the right appointments, and the gun-prohibition juggernaut would roll.

If these guys think that Mad Howie will be any different on the gun issue if he attains power, then I want whatever drug they are taking. Anyhow, it would be the appointee that makes the decision, and the pool of appointees for a liberal Democrat President is, after all, mostly filled with fellow liberal Democrats - almost all of whom are vicious anti-gunners. Actions could, and most likely would, be taken without Howie's knowledge. Besides, Howie's press secretary will merely state that "if the existing law is not being violated, we're fine with that. Howard Dean promised no new gun legislation, only the enforcement of existing gun laws, and these actions don't violate that promise."

18 posted on 01/14/2004 7:26:45 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: neverdem; ought-six; BudgieRamone; templar
...and a single federal judge could order gun confiscation, prohibit gun manufacture, or do almost anything else he wanted to eliminate or restrict gun ownership.

If such authority is ever vested in the judiciary, I would recommend buying stock in casket makers and funeral homes, as things will get very nasty. Even if, as some on this thread have stated, only a miniscule percentage of gun owners take action, the toll will be horrendous. With 80 million gun owners, 1/10 of 1% is 80,000 people. 80,000 highly skilled, well-equipped, really P.O.'d people who believe that they have nothing to lose but their freedom, people who each have the potential to make the Beltway "snipers" look like the true amateurs that they were...you're looking at a country that will be in a bigger mess than in the Civil War. And when the fed.gov and states begin to "clamp down" to "stop the terroristic violence," that will be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot more than 80,000 people.

19 posted on 01/14/2004 7:35:25 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: neverdem
For example, there is no federal agency like the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) that licenses teddy-bear manufacturers, wholesalers, and vendors. Teddy-bear stores do not have to keep permanent records on all their customers, and make those records available for government inspection.


And those who violate teddy-bear laws without harm resulting to another person do not end up in prison for years.
20 posted on 01/14/2004 7:49:16 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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