Bush Plans $1.5 Billion Drive for Promotion of Marriage

The New York Times ^ | 01/14/04 | ROBERT PEAR and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

[JudgemAll]

Socialism: for every person helped, 10 persons get destituted.

Bush's plan is only going to help families get destroyed in the long run.... now if we could have a roll back on gay rights and hate crimes etc... that would do a lot for the US family...

[Fledermaus]

I'll have to read up on this, but it sounds silly.

But I'll give Bush credit for FINALLY wiping out the marriage penalty in the tax code. A married couple filing jointly finally get a standard deduction equal to twice that of a single filer for the first time.

I computed my 2003 taxes compared to 2002 and my wife and I saved an additional $462 in income taxes with the increased deduction based on the 2002 code.

[RJCogburn]

All politics...all the time.

[bvw]

My reading comprehension skills are top notch. And I suspect yours are good enough to know what he said too. That is, *if* you subtract off what you wnat it to say from what he actually said.

It's a sorry thing. The relationship improvement techniques that are now developed are good and work when taught. But they can easily be poisoned to long term negative effect. That negative poison is what that last statement "Marriage causes domestic violence" conveys.

Here -- with the poison two things happen. The break-up will be more likely yet more orderly and a lesser percentage of the chidren of the marriage will marry. Suicides will increase. IMO.

Why? Because passion makes a marriage, makes a life, and when poisoned, rather than wrestled with, rather than refined, killing passion turns life grey and labored.

[sawyer]

Are you sure this is not the joke of the day?

[sawyer]

Are you telling me that we had no problems when every one who wed stayed together or we just did not marry? Please do not tell me that.

[sawyer]

Only his young brother's.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

"This is a way for the president to address the concerns of conservatives and to solidify his conservative base," a presidential adviser said.

BWAAAHAAAHAAHAHAHA

[sawyer]

Is he a latent liberal?

[bvw]

There's another aspect of this I see, you may not. The people that seem to be throwing in with it. The social statisticians , the relationship program hawkers. An overlap to the crop of career bureaucrats, ivory towerines, beltway franchise-holders now dominating the national "eductaion" landscape. FedGov is unhealthy for many good ideas that are better nutured and grown outside the narrowing confines of the beltway.

If this goes through with any force watch how quickly those many and developing relationship building programs become robotized and neutered. Federal baronnies, pensions and sincures ... highly carcinogenic

[sawyer]

This is the only thread I will read to day as it has been so much fun. As if anyone has ever had a better laugh. By the way this is a world wild thing, divorce,where we could send our tax money is just wild to think about.

[Moonman62]

Being the President is a tough job.

I think we need a $2 billion federal study to find out how tough it is.

[Moonman62]

*SOME* things are *WORTH* spending money on, like *PRESERVING* the *SANCTITY* of marriage!!!!

Sure it is. Spend your own money. How effective do you think the federal government will be? This is the same government that lets 12 million illegals and terrorists waltz across our borders.

[Non-Sequitur]

Who would have thought that we would live to see the day where the Democrats look like the party of fiscal responsibility and constraint?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

How effective do you think the federal government will be? This is the same government that lets 12 million illegals and terrorists waltz across our borders.

Perhaps Bush will assign an illegal alien to do "the work that your American husband or wife won't do".

[Moonman62]

Too funny. I wish I'd thought of that.

[ohioWfan]

I'm not stupid, thank you.

[ohioWfan]

I know your opinion of 'Bush, Jr', Hank.

You don't need to waste your effort telling me.....

[ohioWfan]

Vile people behave in vile ways.

It's best to ignore them.

[ohioWfan]

Right.

Whatever you say, Rooster. You're the expert.