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To: quidnunc
If they're not Patsies then they're most likely to be Keyesters, Losertarians or Constipationists.

Yeah, yada, yada, yada, blah, blah, blah. Stick your smug, childish replies where the sun doesn't shine.

Almost all the folks you're talking about voted for GWB (many with considerable misgivings) and hoped for the best. .

He won by a whisker last time. There will be myriad conservatives not voting for him this time.

79 posted on 01/13/2004 3:58:20 PM PST by iconoclast
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There will be myriad conservatives not voting for him this time. All the name calling aside, I'm concerned by the posting views of FReepers here often. Their definition of "Conservatives" seems more like those of Libertarian, which used to mean "Liberal" in thought and action. I don't want big government, nor intrusive government control in my life either, I think I pay more than enough taxes. But I don't support "Free Will" do it if it feels good without regard to "Tradition". I'm not a "neo-con" or a "RINO" nor a "pubbie". I am in the traditional sense a conservative, patriotic American. I'm not hyphenated, and vote to support the best candidate that has the best chance of winning to try to stave off the socialist form of life we would have under most any DemoRat Candidate. Maybe it is time to review the dictionary definitions of Conservative and Liberal to see where people really fit. Not voting for GWB is a choice, we all have them. Common Sense is something that many don't seem to have anymore. Until America can find a 3rd party candidate that is viable (ead electable). All this "I'm not giving my vote to the republicans" is wasted air. Definitions follow, from Merriam Webster online. So it is time for self examination. If the shoe fits.... might find you are in the wrong forumn. Main Entry: 1con·ser·va·tive Pronunciation: k&n-'s&r-v&-tiv Function: adjective Date: 14th century 1 : PRESERVATIVE 2 a : of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism : as (1) : of or constituting a party of the United Kingdom advocating support of established institutions (2) : PROGRESSIVE CONSERVATIVE 3 a : tending or disposed to maintain existing views, conditions, or institutions : TRADITIONAL b : marked by moderation or caution c : marked by or relating to traditional norms of taste, elegance, style, or manners 4 : of or relating to Conservative Judaism Main Entry: con·ser·va·tism Pronunciation: k&n-'s&r-v&-"ti-z&m Function: noun Date: 1835 1 capitalized a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party b : the Conservative party 2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change 3 : the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change Main Entry: 2conservative Function: noun Date: 1831 1 a : an adherent or advocate of political conservatism b capitalized : a member or supporter of a conservative political party 2 a : one who adheres to traditional methods or views b : a cautious or discreet person Tradition 1 : an inherited, established, or customary pattern of thought, action, or behavior (as a religious practice or a social custom) 2 : the handing down of information, beliefs, and customs by word of mouth or by example from one generation to another without written instruction 3 : cultural continuity in social attitudes, customs, and institutions 4 : characteristic manner, method, or style Main Entry: lib·er·tar·i·an Pronunciation: "li-b&r-'ter-E-&n Function: noun Date: 1789 1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will 2 a : a person who upholds the principles of absolute and unrestricted liberty especially of thought and action b capitalized : a member of a political party advocating libertarian principles Main Entry: civil liberty Function: noun Date: 1644 : freedom from arbitrary governmental interference (as with the right of free speech) specifically by denial of governmental power and in the U.S. especially as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights -- usually used in plural - civil libertarian noun or adjective Main Entry: lib·er·ty Pronunciation: 'li-b&r-tE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -ties Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French liberté, from Latin libertat-, libertas, from liber free -- more at LIBERAL Date: 14th century 1 : the quality or state of being free: a : the power to do as one pleases b : freedom from physical restraint c : freedom from arbitrary or despotic control d : the positive enjoyment of various social, political, or economic rights and privileges e : the power of choice 2 a : a right or immunity enjoyed by prescription or by grant : PRIVILEGE b : permission especially to go freely within specified limits 3 : an action going beyond normal limits: as a : a breach of etiquette or propriety : FAMILIARITY b : RISK, CHANCE c : a violation of rules or a deviation from standard practice d : a distortion of fact 4 : a short authorized absence from naval duty usually for less than 48 hours Main Entry: 1lib·er·al Pronunciation: 'li-b(&-)r&l Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lEodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free Date: 14th century 1 a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth 2 a : marked by generosity : OPENHANDED b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way c : AMPLE, FULL 3 obsolete : lacking moral restraint : LICENTIOUS 4 : not literal or strict : LOOSE 5 : BROAD-MINDED; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms 6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives Main Entry: li·cen·tious Pronunciation: lI-'sen(t)-sh&s Function: adjective Etymology: Latin licentiosus, from licentia Date: 1535 1 : lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints 2 : marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness Main Entry: lib·er·al·ism Pronunciation: 'li-b(&-)r&-"li-z&m Function: noun Date: 1819 1 : the quality or state of being liberal 2 a often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b : a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c : a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties d capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party
624 posted on 01/14/2004 8:24:24 AM PST by DeathfromBelow
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