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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; ...
Regardless of what some representatives may say and think, "it's not over 'til it's over". And even if the AW ban sunsets, don't think that next year something like it won't be tacked on as an amendment to some unrelated crime bill or somesuch.

The gun-haters are sneaks, liars, and will pull whatever trick they think they can get away with to further their agenda of total civilian disarmament. Act accordingly.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

19 posted on 01/13/2004 5:48:33 AM PST by Joe Brower ("If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face, forever." - G. Orwell)
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To: Joe Brower
Duped or not, the result is always the same:


20 posted on 01/13/2004 5:50:55 AM PST by risk
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping, but I will believe it when I see it.

CD

21 posted on 01/13/2004 5:58:27 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Joe Brower
"it's not over 'til it's over".

Indeed. But, it is refreshing to hear encouraging news all the same.

43 posted on 01/13/2004 8:26:24 AM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Joe Brower
Regardless of what some representatives may say and think, "it's not over 'til it's over". And even if the AW ban sunsets, don't think that next year something like it won't be tacked on as an amendment to some unrelated crime bill or somesuch.

The gun-haters are sneaks, liars, and will pull whatever trick they think they can get away with to further their agenda of total civilian disarmament. Act accordingly.

So true. IMHO, if the AW ban sunsets, it'll be a temporary reprieve from an idiotic piece of legislation, not a permanent victory. The next time the Democrats have enough clout in Congress, the same anti-gun provisions - and probably far worse - will be passed. Either a Democrat or gutless Republican president will sign it, and you can bet there will be no sunset provision.

As far as what may occur this year, we should be doubly vigilant. While we're watching the bill that promises to expand the AW Ban, a simple sentence re-authorizing and making permanent the existing AW ban could be slipped into some other innocous piece of legislation. Check Six, people.

47 posted on 01/13/2004 9:04:05 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Joe Brower
Well said..

" The price of Liberty is Eternal Vigilance."

48 posted on 01/13/2004 9:05:00 AM PST by Drammach
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To: Joe Brower
Be Well ~ Be Armed ~ Be Safe ~ Molon Labe!
53 posted on 01/13/2004 1:07:17 PM PST by blackie
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To: Joe Brower
Yes, liars and thieves, the whole lot of 'em. There's only two things a politician understands: money and power and its corollary, force. They have very short memories - about as long as the next election cycle. They would all, to the man, sell out their own mothers if it would guarantee their reelection. They want an absolute monopoly on power and the force necessary to maintain it. In this, all governments tend toward tyranny.

If they thought they could get away with it, they would vote tomorrow on a total gun ban/confiscation law. It is the reality of the well-armed citizenry that keeps them from doing it all at once. Instead, the plan is to slowly convince the moron voters that they, and the children, will all be safer once all guns are gone. They will lie, cheat, stall, BS and otherwise drag their feet anytime the 2nd is brought up in polite conversation. Sure, everyone of the SOB's will say that he is fore-square behind the 2nd Amendment; but when pressed by the right people, most will define the 2nd as a collective right of states to arm government-controlled militias.

The gains made over the last decade in CCW reform have been striking; yet no gun laws have been repealed or thrown out by the courts, and no real reversal of the trend toward more gun control have been realized. That is why the sunsetting of this rotten, unconstitutional AW ban is so critical. It would be the FIRST time that any progress was made in reversing the trend. It is a watershed issue for me; as goes this sunsetting, so goes my political thinking process. I think that if this ban cannot be gotten rid of and KEPT rid of, then the 2nd will soon become meaningless and the PKBA (permission to keep and bear arms) will eventually be revoked.

55 posted on 01/13/2004 1:56:43 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Joe Brower

The gun-haters are sneaks, liars, and will pull
whatever trick they think they can get away with
to further their agenda of total civilian disarmament.

70 posted on 01/13/2004 7:46:06 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Joe Brower
There is no reason why GWB cannot say that "I have re-evaluated my position on the AWB and will not support a renewal of the bill. At the time I offered my support for the bill I did not have the benefit of the studies that show the bill is ineffective, nor did I have the benefit of the new study* that indicates most Americans do not support the ban."

*"Recent evidence of this comes in the form of data from a poll conducted by John Zogby for Southern Methodist University's Tower Center and the O'Leary Report...Surprisingly, however, the data showed that while more people in the blue states favor new and tougher gun laws than those in the red states, most voters in both groups of states are far more supportive of the right to own firearms than the Democrats suspected. Indeed, only the sorts of urban and campus-based liberals who dominate the leadership of the Democratic Party were found to be as hostile to gun ownership as Gore and his running mate had been in 2000."

-- Gun issue could cost Democrats the White House again, David Keene, The Hill, Tuesday, January 13, 2004.

72 posted on 01/14/2004 5:09:10 AM PST by Abundy
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