Amnesty By Another Name is Still Amnesty: Bush Compounds an Immigration Disaster

Intellectual Conservative ^ | January 12th, 2004 | W. James Antle III

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Nor will it do to say that we’re stuck with the 8 to 12 million illegal immigrants who are here, so the only thing we can do is legalize them.  Regardless of the feasibility or even desirability of mass deportations, to say that we must either tolerate large numbers of illegal aliens or deport upwards of 12 million people is a false choice.  We already deport more than 300,000 people per year.  Is it not feasible to increase this number somewhat?  Although the numbers are in dispute, the late INS managed to deport upwards of a million illegal aliens in 1954.  But in any event, we would not have to find and deport every single illegal immigrant in America.  An increase in deportations would send precisely the opposite message as amnesty: That the U.S. is serious about protecting its borders and enforcing its immigration laws.  Sending this message would do as much to discourage illegal immigration as amnesty would do to increase it.

National Review editor Rich Lowry made this point in a recent syndicated column on “do-it-yourself deportation.”  In the two years following 9/11, deportations of Pakistanis, Jordanians, Lebanese and Moroccans doubled and this prompted many to leave on their own.  Lowry observed, “The Pakistani Embassy now says that more than 15,000 Pakistani illegals have left the country since Sept. 11.”  But no one should be surprised to discover that failure to enforce the law yields more immigration violations.

They Will Deport Themselves

Eighteen Illegal Alien solutions that are better than any Amnesty

[Sabertooth]

FYI

[joesnuffy]

The elite in America long to make America a third world country and rid themselves of an educated middle class...
Serfs up dude...

[philetus]

The elite all think they're going to be rulers and overlords.

[uncbob]

Well as long as the democrats think Bush doesn't go far enough in panderinmg for the Hispanic vote the conservatives have no where to go and we have successfully been TRIANGULATED by Carl Rove just like the CFR bill

Thing is there is no good end to this as garnering the Hispanic vote is an illusion just as the Black vote was in 2000, the black votre that was supposed to be gained by showcasing Powell and Rice at the convention

So it is a LOSE LOSE proposition as CFR was

[Brian Allen]

So far eighteen Republicans in my immediate circle of friends and aquaintences will not lift a finger to support nor vote for a single feral-gummint Republican, President Bush included, for as long as this treasonous un-and-anti-American assault upon our nation's borders, language, culture, Rule of Law -- and very survival -- is on the table.

BORDERS! LANGUAGE! CULTURE! SOVEREIGNTY! CIVILIZATION! SURVIVAL!

[Zipporah]

“more palatable to conservatives -- in reality it takes already porous borders and pries them further open still at the expense of American taxpayers and workers."...this is about as palatable to (REAL) conservatives as trying to swallow an 'elephant'..

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

Another freeper, Zipporah, wrote on a thread recently that Bush's new plan is actually for any foreigner from any nation. I believe the folks next door will not be our biggest headache. The idea that the entire world is now a legitimate labor pool is clearly part of Bush's plan. I have to wonder if he even thinks that there is a reason for a nation to have borders.
The Race to the Bottom is clearly being accelerated.
Others have suggested that Americans will turn to socialism or communism when offshoring reaches a certain point; when Americans can no longer make enough money to support themselves, and turn to government programs to survive.
We will have lost our Republic, along with The American Dream; all for a handful of greedy CEOs and crooked politicians.

[Brian Allen]

<< The elite in America long to make America a third world country and rid themselves of an educated middle class ...

Serfs up dude ... >>

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[Torie]

The anchor baby thingie is a problem with the Bush program. I am surprised you didn't mention it in your screeds about a guest worker program. Frankly, it had missed my radar screen. Of course, without jailing employers, the reality is that there will be relatively the same number of anchor babies from illegals/guest workers, no matter what, until either America ceases to be the economic wonder of the world, relatively speaking. But it won't be that long, before the illegals are more Asian than Latino. The trick is to fill the slots of jobs of those who sire the anchor babies with folks that are more clearly of our choosing, or amend the 14th amendment.

The more I think about this, the more I think government is largely irrelevant to this issue, except at the margins.

[SAMWolf]

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[Happy2BMe]

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[Bernard Marx]

Make me #19.

I usually hate one-issue voters but I also hate being manipulated and taken for granted. Illegal immigration is one thing that's absolutely non-negotiable for me. I stay home next election day unless this disaster is fixed and forgotten.

Right now they're packing their bags from Tierra del Fuego north to Juarez.

[MissAmericanPie]

There are at the least 20 million illegals in the USofA from all nations, there are at least 2+ million in the Dallas/FtWorth metroplex alone. Last night I was talking to a cop that said the influx in just the last eighteen months has been astounding.

It's pretty much half and half now, half mexican, half anglo american, add in the other minorities and we are a minority now.

Fox claims he and Bush had this amnesty planned from the early days when Bush became governor of Texas. Which means Bush committed fraud when he read and signed the Texas Republican coalitions requirements as to what he would promote while in office, before any campaign funds could be released to him.

[riri]

Last night I was talking to a cop that said the influx in just the last eighteen months has been astounding

I would agree with that estimation just as an oserver. I would say the last two years have changed dramatically here in Phoenix.

[Carry_Okie]

The anchor baby thingie is a problem with the Bush program.

The correct answer to anchor babies is in the US Constitution, as written. The Slaughterhouse Cases are the first Supreme Court interpretation of the 14th Amendment on record. The author of the majority opinion is a contemporary of those who drafted and debated the Amendment. The following text is from the majority opinion (about 3/4 of the way down the linked source page):

http://www2.law.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/foliocgi.exe/historic/query=[group+f_slavery!3A]/doc/{@6621}/hit_headings/words=4

Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1872) (USSC+)
Opinions
MILLER, J., Opinion of the Court

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, "subject to its jurisdiction" was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.

[riri]

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