Amnesty By Another Name is Still Amnesty: Bush Compounds an Immigration Disaster

Intellectual Conservative ^ | January 12th, 2004 | W. James Antle III

[SerpentDove]

[sarcasm]

tring to implement a solution, which in the end, will serve America; it's(sic) taxpayers,

How?

[Mudboy Slim]

I found this on a website called "RightWingNews"...I like it...

December 29, 2003
"Here's How We Should Be Handling Illegal Immigrants"

Although all the details haven't been released yet, the new Bush administration immigration plan sounds like a disaster in the making. Apparently the Bush administration intends to reward illegal immigrants for breaking the law by eventually giving amnesty to any criminal who manages to successfully sneak across our borders to look for work. The way that the American people are being sold out on this issue, among others, is so disgraceful that I almost wish Bush had a primary challenger just to force Bush to stop acting like such a RINO on domestic issues. Were Bush serious about dealing with illegal immigration, let me give you an idea of about what he'd be doing...

We can get most illegal aliens to leave on their own if we...

-- Levy LARGE fines on employers who hire illegals. Flagrant or repeat violators could face jail time. Vigorously enforce this law and this will take away the jobs illegal aliens are coming here to get.

-- Allow illegal immigrants to receive no benefits or privileges other than emergency medical care. Cut off certain types of federal funding to states that provide services to illegals.

Then to get rid of the stragglers...

-- Give the police the authority and the funding to lock-up illegal aliens until they can be deported.

-- Make any illegal alien caught on US soil ineligible to ever become a citizen.

-- Do not give citizenship to the children of illegal aliens.

To discourage future problems with illegal aliens...

-- Double our manpower on the US border and equip them with radar stations and predator drones. We can control our borders; it's simply a matter of devoting the manpower and resources to the task.

-- Set up a work program with Mexico. Allow Mexican citizens who have filled out their paperwork to get work permits and come to the United States & work in a controlled and legal manner.

While these steps wouldn't solve our problems overnight, they would have a significant impact right off of the bat and within a few years, they would for the most part end illegal immigration to the US on a large scale. Too bad the Bush administration is more interested in scoring a few cheap points with business owners and Latino voters at the rest of America's expense, or he'd be proposing something along these lines...

John Hawkins | 10:22 PM

If there's a will, here's the way...MUD

[xJones]

Of course, I don't think the muddled status quo is the end of the world, at least not at present. I don't accept the downside scenario of the worry warts as being more likely than not.

And when your ox is gored, Torie, please do report back.

[Pelham]

"Serfs up dude..."

Truth.

[rmmcdaniell]

"This program, will offer legal status, as temporary workers, to the millions of undocumented men and women now employed in the United States and to those in foreign countries who seek to participate in the program and have been offered employment here."

Forget these new workers taking up construction, fruit picking, or other such "undesirable jobs." There are millions of highly educated people out there who would kill to be able to live in the U.S. All an American company would have to do is offer them a minimum-wage job and these people are in. The company saves $$$ staffing a position, which requires a college education, with a highly educated minimum wage worker. This worker is willing to make do on a low income until he can get his wife to have an anchor baby and then he's set. Meanwhile the natural born American who just graduated from college has $30,000 in student loans and the positions he got his degree for are taken up by minimum-wage arrivals on the guest worker program.

[Mudboy Slim]

"Bush is trying to find at least, a reasonable and fair middle ground; tring to implement a solution, which in the end, will serve America; it's taxpayers, it's future; while trying as well to do the right thing for an economically displaced population; who are, in fact, our neighbor."

And his latest proposal FAILS MISERABLY...MUD

[Pelham]

"All the liberal politicians from Hubert Humprey, LBJ and the Kennedys "

to the current President....

[Kay Soze]

start sarcasm:

Don't go posting Conservative propaganda here.

No matter what I must vote for W because if I dont then a demoncrat will win!

And the Pubbies know it!

So the only votes they need (the left) they barter away my nations security and it's financial well being.

And the more I complain the further left W must go.

end sarcasm

[Capitalist Eric]

I stay home next election day unless this disaster is fixed and forgotten.

Agreed. I wrote a letter to the White House, saying this, as well... And predicting a few million fellow-conservatives will choose the same thing.

Be well.

[Hugin]

Once Bush's guest worker program has driven the average wage down to the legal minimum, the Dems will be swept into power by promising to raise the minimum wage to $12.00 an hour and providing universal health care. The result will be a stagnant socialist economy ala Germany. Mark it down, you heard it here first.

[Texasforever]

No matter what I must vote for W because if I dont then a demoncrat will win!

Kay I don't see anyone begging for your vote. If you want to vote against Bush or stay at home do it. See how easy that is?

[Pelham]

I know. But since you were listing a string of liberal politicos, I couldn't resist adding to it.

[Zipporah]

"I pretty much agree with Rush "... Rush is in their back pockets IMHO..

I used to listen to Rush daily.. I saw a change in him after Rush went to the WH during Bush the 1st's administration..Rush became less and less (traditional) conservative.. I finally stopped listening.

[Sabertooth]

This horse stops running soon as it is out of the gate.

From 8 to 12 million illegals and then asking why we cannot increase the deportees, 'somewhat' - somewhat - SomeWHAT???

Yeah, somewhat.

For example, President Bush doesn't currently enforce standing deportation oprders against Illegals who don't show up for their buses.

There are upwards of 400,000 individuals who have received final deportation orders that are hiding in our communities. Their appeals have run out, and those orders tell them, “it’s time to go.” But, the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can’t find them! What’s worse, 80,000 of those people have criminal convictions, just like Miguel Angelo Gordoba! They were in the hands of our law enforcement. Can you imagine opening the doors of our prisons and letting 80,000 criminals run back into the streets? Well folks, that’s exactly what has happened with these 80,000 criminal aliens.

What’s more, 3,800 of those people with final deportation orders are from countries with a known Al-Qaeda presence.
Statement of the Honorable Charlie Norwood
The CLEAR Act of 2003
July 9, 2003

Compare these figures to those of two years ago...

The Justice Department's decision to track down and deport 6,000 Middle Eastern aliens who've been ordered to leave the country attracted howls of protest from all the usual places earlier this week. The government has a list of more than 300,000 deportable immigrants.
Deportation Disorder
National Review Online
John J. Miller & Ramesh Ponnuru | January 10th, 2002

These deportable Illegals from two years ago, in the aftermath of September 11th, are mostly still here, including tens of thousands of hardened, violent criminals, and thousands of Illegals from Al Qaeda nations.

If the terror attacks were insufficient to compel President Bush to carry out even the minimum enforcement of the standing deportation orders, then he sure as heck ain't gonna deport any legalized-Illegals down the road.

Wake-up folks; Bush is trying to find at least, a reasonable and fair middle ground; tring to implement a solution, which in the end, will serve America; it's taxpayers, it's future; while trying as well to do the right thing for an economically displaced population; who are, in fact, our neighbor.

It's not a middle ground, it's Amnesty-by-stages, and will cost the GOP votes and seats.

Wake up and smell the political disaster.

[Bernard Marx]

Don't do that...that's what they're counting on! Vote for ANYONE ELSE, but VOTE. It's the only power we've got..use it.

I'll vote but not for Bush/Rove. I haven't missed an election since I turned 21...won't tell how long ago! Apparently the President thinks the so-called "Hispanic" vote is more important than the American Conservative Citizen vote. It's the pandering and the sell-out of citizens that infuriates me. To win he'll need to convince quite a few "Hispanics" as replacements for conservatives like me.

I'll vote AGAINST anyone who supports this legislation in Congress. I'll vote FOR anyone who supports American sovereignty, law and the Constitution.

Something definitely needs to be done about the immigration mess and the imbalance between our prosperity and the poverty to the south. But this is the most wrong-headed, unlawful, naive, back-stabbing, dimwitted approach that could be found. Yes, Canada, the U.S. and Mexico need to come together as an economic bloc to counter competition from the E.U. and Asia (China). But turning American into a Third World country and devaluing American citizenship isn't the way to do it.

[Victoria Delsoul]

I used to listen to Rush daily.. I saw a change in him after Rush went to the WH during Bush the 1st's administration..Rush became less and less (traditional) conservative.. I finally stopped listening.

I think Rush is someone who conveys a message in a logical and coherent way. I like him, and thanks to him a lot of conservatives are able to get their facts. This is something the main media doesn't do well.