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To: ravingnutter
I learned in elementary school is that the President does not make laws, Congress does. I am continually surprised at all of the seemingly intelligent people on this forum or that I have met who don't seem to grasp this concept...

But Bush signs laws such as the horrible education bill, the horrible campaign finance law and the horrible prescription law. The Prez is a very important person! Therefore, I believe this Amnesty proposal will pass hands down. The Congress is terrified to go against the one world mentality that has been on the front burner of political thought for so many years. In other words, Congress knows what the president wants and delivers.

40 posted on 01/12/2004 1:07:18 PM PST by swampfox98
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To: swampfox98
" horrible education bill, the horrible campaign finance law and the horrible prescription law."

This is different....both sides of the house are in sufficient numbers to kill this. No guarantees, just my opinion.
41 posted on 01/12/2004 1:15:24 PM PST by international american (support our troops.........revoke Hillary's visa!!)
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To: swampfox98
What is sickening about the President's remarks, quoted above, is that like his immediate predecessor, he is using slick emotionally tinged Madison Avenue type arguments--much as one might market a new TV series, or any of the Leftwing programs that the Left has marketed over the past half-century--and has completely avoided the real questions involved in the present immigration debate. It is impossible to believe that he both understands and cares about the long-term implications and effects of what he proposes.

I have tried to address this whole problem with balance (yet with a firm determination to discuss frankly the ethnic questions which the Left in Academia has been trying since the 1920s to suppress), in order to put the essential factors before the student debater, in Chapter 15 of the Debate Handbook: Immigration & The American Future. It is packed full of points that the President refuses to acknowledge even need be considered at all. While mankind has throughout history often followed leaders that ignored reality; reality always emerges in the end with terrible consequences. Frankly, I do not believe that we dare continue to support this type of "leadership."

William Flax

43 posted on 01/12/2004 1:26:27 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: swampfox98
Therefore, I believe this Amnesty proposal will pass hands down.

Umm, Bush tried to ram 245(i) amnesty through Congress and it was defeated in committee after a firestorm of public opposition. That btw was modest compared to what's being proposed here.

Not saying nothing will pass eventually, but it won't be anything near this monstrosity.

49 posted on 01/12/2004 2:10:59 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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Impatience Grows for Immigration Reforms

464 posted on 08/29/2005 5:39:11 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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