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To: janetgreen
We are sick about it.

Why...it will never become law as is...he clearly stated that Congress would have to handle the details. A basic fact that I learned in elementary school is that the President does not make laws, Congress does. I am continually surprised at all of the seemingly intelligent people on this forum or that I have met who don't seem to grasp this concept. Bush's plan will be in the cross-cut shredder the minute it hits Congress and I think Bush knew that. Was he merely pandering to the Hispanics? Sure. Will I stay home from the polls because of it like so many have threatened on here? Not likely, because I understand that while his proposal was merely pandering for political gain (probably one of Rove's less brilliant schemes), I do have to commend him on throwing the ball onto the court to start the debate process and pushing Congress to act on a plan to resolve the problem.

Personally, I think we ought to just forget Bush's proposal and concentrate on backing Tom Tancredo's version of the bill by writing our Congresscritters.

25 posted on 01/12/2004 11:06:21 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
Bush's plan will be in the cross-cut shredder the minute it hits Congress and I think Bush knew that.

Really? I think he's seen S.1387 and developed his proposal based on that bill.

31 posted on 01/12/2004 11:42:01 AM PST by michigander
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To: ravingnutter
I learned in elementary school is that the President does not make laws, Congress does. I am continually surprised at all of the seemingly intelligent people on this forum or that I have met who don't seem to grasp this concept...

But Bush signs laws such as the horrible education bill, the horrible campaign finance law and the horrible prescription law. The Prez is a very important person! Therefore, I believe this Amnesty proposal will pass hands down. The Congress is terrified to go against the one world mentality that has been on the front burner of political thought for so many years. In other words, Congress knows what the president wants and delivers.

40 posted on 01/12/2004 1:07:18 PM PST by swampfox98
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To: ravingnutter
We DO get it. Your concept that Rove is up to something far craftier here is bogus. And EVEN if it were true, that would disgust me just as much.
63 posted on 01/13/2004 2:20:08 AM PST by MissouriForBush
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To: ravingnutter
A basic fact that I learned in elementary school is that the President does not make laws, Congress does. I am continually surprised at all of the seemingly intelligent people on this forum or that I have met who don't seem to grasp this concept.

Well, ya gotta excuse us dummies here at FR. After watching laws made by executive order, laws made from the judicial bench, laws made by bureaucrats, and the Constitution trampled in general, we kinda go from what's happening, not for some fairy tale we were taught in elementary school.

Bush's plan will be put into effect if he's re-elected, but not until AFTER the November elections.

Hb

89 posted on 01/13/2004 11:31:29 PM PST by Hoverbug
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To: ravingnutter
P.S. Is this the same thing as signing CFR because "The SCOTUS will never go for it?"

Wake up raving, it's later than you think.

Hb
90 posted on 01/13/2004 11:34:47 PM PST by Hoverbug
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To: ravingnutter
I prefer a ZERO worker program. This is just not going to be enforced. Period. Stop ALL illegal immigration. Seal the borders.

I propose legislation instead that would include EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE ILLEGALS be added to the RICO laws. Take away the jobs and the Uncle Sugar taxpayer freebies and they'll run right back to Mexico where they belong.
132 posted on 01/16/2004 7:11:27 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004! VOTE TANCREDO!)
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Bush signs Latin free trade pact

345 posted on 08/02/2005 12:46:05 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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Landlord sues town, citing discrimination against Hispanic immigrants

429 posted on 08/23/2005 5:55:04 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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Activists say Minutemen causing fear; ACLU offers training in El Paso
467 posted on 08/29/2005 5:42:35 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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Residents rally for state border police - Californians want state police force to patrol the border

473 posted on 08/29/2005 5:49:56 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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Jim Gilchrist Stance On Iraq War?

474 posted on 08/29/2005 5:50:42 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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L.A. Latinos protest war, dropout rate (and MinuteMan Project)

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Latino marchers to protest Iraq war, today's injustices
 

476 posted on 08/29/2005 5:57:02 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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