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To: liberallarry
IMHO, 'deportation of 10 million' is a strawman.

First, understand that with our borders, about 750,000 illegal crossers come in each year, or overstay visas.
Fix the enforcement and the incentives and new arrivals will stop arriving.

1. End the market in labor for illegals. Make document verification mandatory, and start enfocing employer sanctions. (Not enforced because businesses lean on chamber of commerce which leans on our pols; well, that's got to stop.)
2. End the incentive for illegals to get any form of Govt aid (a la 187, I like it, Bush doesnt).
3. Stop giving citizenship to babies born of illegal alien mothers who cross over and show up at our emergency rooms.
4. Abolish the EOIR and end the maze of loopholes and rolling amnesties that keeps criminal aliens in the US.
5. Pass the CLEAR Act, to encourage local law enforcement to assist in immigration law enforcement.
6. Protect the border better with whatever fencing, technology, UAVs, and manpower needed to curtail the porous border.

After a while, the message will get back that we are serious about enforcing the law. Over time, would-be illegal aliens will stop attempting, some here who cant get jobs anymore will voluntarily go back home, others will be found and deported ... and the swamp will be drained.

I see Bush's proposal as a possible carrot to the above stick of enforcement that allows those here and in our economy to remain if they can get sponsored by employers. As per Buchanan, it a form of quasi-amnesty.
Without enforcement, the Bush plan will fail miserably. With it, the carrot and stick could work together to drain the swamp of illegal immigration. We will also need to curtial 'chain migration' too though or this plan is an invitation to huge mass migration that Americans dont want. JMHO.
76 posted on 01/12/2004 9:57:49 AM PST by WOSG (I dont want the GOP to become a circular firing squad and the Socialist Democrats a majority.)
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To: WOSG
"1. End the market in labor for illegals. Make document verification mandatory, and start enfocing employer sanctions. (Not enforced because businesses lean on chamber of commerce which leans on our pols; well, that's got to stop.)
2. End the incentive for illegals to get any form of Govt aid (a la 187, I like it, Bush doesnt).
3. Stop giving citizenship to babies born of illegal alien mothers who cross over and show up at our emergency rooms.
4. Abolish the EOIR and end the maze of loopholes and rolling amnesties that keeps criminal aliens in the US.
5. Pass the CLEAR Act, to encourage local law enforcement to assist in immigration law enforcement.
6. Protect the border better with whatever fencing, technology, UAVs, and manpower needed to curtail the porous border. "

I agree with EVERYTHING you have posted here! Very well thought out and very common sense! Because of this it would not fly. I see politicians not thinking with any common sense.
85 posted on 01/12/2004 10:07:17 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: WOSG
It took me SO long to type my first post that I'm just reading yours now...the "carrot and the stick" analogy that I used too! This is really just "great minds (IMHO!) think alike" and not "plagiarism"...LOL!!
114 posted on 01/12/2004 10:45:25 AM PST by 88keys (I do not care for liberal agendas, no matter how reasonable the original premise...)
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