Real Message of The Bush Amnesty

The American Conservative ^ | 1/12/2004 | PAT BUCHANAN

[Tauzero]

" Pat Buchanan is not a conservative."

Actually he's a conservative, but not a Republican.

[liberallarry]

The program was a good idea and initially a success

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despite the fact that every poll shows about eighty per cent of citizens want the borders closed to the invasion, the rulers have no intention of listening to their subjects.

An interesting comment. If true how much more has been done despite the wishes of the electorate and what kind of government do we really have?

[liberallarry]

Dang you're lucky

Not my choice. They can't stand me. :)

[sauropod]

"Since when is being sick and tired of reading posts that attack anybody who tries to defend the President's decisions and avoiding such situations of flame wars and such juvenile behavior as I have witnesses on other such threads known as "sticking my head in the sand"

Since the President is expected to uphold and defend the Constitution. Some of us are going to hold him accountable to his oath. I am sorry you do not feel the need to do so.

Fine. I guess its time for the Four Questions:

Explain to me how expanding Medicare to include the non means-tested "Prescription Drugs for Seniors" (a 450 BILLION DOLLAR entitlement) benefits the country.

Explain to me how his refusal to veto even one single bill like "Campaign Finance Reform" is good for the country.

Explain to me how his signing on the dotted line of a bloated Farm Bill and Education Bill benefits the country.

And lastly, Explain to me how bringing in illegal aliens that refuse to assimilate and either want to turn the Southwest into a Mexican state (La Raza, MeCHa) or ship home their $$ benefits the country.

I can think up more questions if you like. Not too hard to do with this President.

DO NOT mistake me as a "one-issue voter."

[sauropod]

My reaction is that immigrants should be welcome if they assimilate into our society and agree to be bound by our laws and make America their country.

If they are not willing to do that, they should stay home.

[international american]

"Imagine a car wash that employs 40 African-American, Latino, and white working-class folks at $8 an hour each. A new car wash down the street opens up, offering 40 new jobs at $5.15 an hour. No Americans apply. Under Bush’s proposal, that employer would be free to go to Asia, Africa, and Latin America, round up workers, and bring them in.

The new car wash with its foreign workers then drives the old car wash with its American workers out of business. Taxpayers are then forced to subsidize the newly unemployed—and pay for the medical care, food stamps, rent supplements, welfare, and schooling of all the new immigrants and their families, provide legal services when they get in trouble and pay for more cops to police their neighborhoods."

There you are!

[Thorin]

Bush doesn't need votes from the left. Some polls have shown him ahead of Dean by 20%.

The correct word for what Bush proposed isn't pandering, it's treason. Under his proposal, not only would the act of illegally entering into the country be rewarded, there would be no effort to enforce our laws or defend our borders. And there are no limits at all on the number of new low-wage, Third World immigrants who could come here, driving down the wages of working Americans and creating many more foreign enclaves in our midst. This scheme, if enacted, would have a ruinous impact on America and Americans.

Even if Bush only intended this as a sop to the Hispanic lobby and Big Business, this proposal will move the debate on immigration dramatically to the left and will enhance the chance that the Hispanic lobby and the Cheap Labor lobby will get a similar bill through Congress. Given his speech, Bush could never veto such a bill--even if he had summoned the courage to veto ANY bill prior to this.

Such monumentally poor judgment does not deserve to be rewarded at the ballot box.

[liberallarry]

If they are not willing to do that, they should stay home

But they won't because home is really crappy. So what's to be done about them?

[warchild9]

Your point is well-taken. In learning a language, one absorbs part of the culture behind that language, I've always found. For instance, I'm currently studying Spanish (mostly so's I can speak to my Cuban in-laws), and the mere act of listening to Spanish music and gawking at those gorgeous women on...er...watching Univision News, I'm gaining new insights into the Latin mind. Much the same thing happened when I studied French in school--learned to ignore the unpleasant aspects of their personalities, and to enjoy French poetry, women, and wine.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Bush to conservatives: Bite me.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I'll HowardDean JohnKerrying write Mr. Peroutka in if I have to! It's time to stop all this Bushit!

[Joe Hadenuf]

However, despite the fact that every poll shows about eighty per cent of citizens want the borders closed to the invasion, the rulers have no intention of listening to their subjects.

And that is exactly what should be ringing everyone's bell.

It's unfortunate, and very damaging that some continue to put their beltway party, or candidate before country.

[sauropod]

Deport them. Where in the Constitution is it written that we have to accept any and all immigrants just because their home is crappy?

The ones that will not adopt American values often bring their crappiness with them.

And that makes my home crappy.

[Jennikins]

It makes me sick when I see people like you condemning Pat Buchanan for ANYTHING he says. He has always been right on the money. We'd be damn lucky if he was our president today.

[Jennikins]

It makes absolutely no sense for us to allow illegal aliens to break into our country, and we get the pleasure of supporting them in every way possible. We are truly insane.!! We are the doormat for everyone who wants ENTITLEMENTS! Sick!

[liberallarry]

Geez pod, have you read any of these posts? Deporting them is not cost-free either. We've been weighing the costs.

[sauropod]

Balanced against what, Larry? The cost to the California medical system because of all the preggo female Mexicans coming over the border, downloading their kid and then being elegible for all the medical benefits?

On a cost/benefit analysis, my contention is that deportation wins.

[liberallarry]

On a cost/benefit analysis, my contention is that deportation wins

Yes, could be.

I'd support mass deportation and militarization if that's what the Administration proposed...as long as I thought they well understood the worst-case scenario and made it clear to at least the thinking portion of the population (a la the National Security Strategy).

[liberallarry]

Which of thse provisions will cause Mexico to attack us?

All of them if they successfully curtail immigration and/or result in mass deportations.

[Beck_isright]

"By offering amnesty and residency to millions who broke in line, broke our laws and broke into our country, Bush is not only rewarding wholesale criminality, he proposes to legalize it."

It depends on what your defininition of the word "is" is. I guess since it was good enough for Caligula, it's good enough for Rove.