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Border council calls Bush plan 'slap in the face'
Washington Times ^ | 1-12-04 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 01/11/2004 10:45:04 PM PST by JustPiper

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Kay Soze
It so appears, but I'm not an attorney. Unless the law is first changed, the paragraph specifically includes those who are "knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact" of someone who is an Illegalien as being criminally liable. I'm not aware that he personally knows of someone being an Illegalien, but if so, then a "YES" answer would be an appropriate response.
141 posted on 01/12/2004 1:49:09 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: swarthyguy
Taco Bell?
142 posted on 01/12/2004 1:49:39 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Kay Soze
And the #1 Reason Amnesty is Amnesty is:

amnesty
n 1: a period during which offenders are exempt from punishment
143 posted on 01/12/2004 1:50:35 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: no_problema
I worked in pharmacy in Chicago and the worse culprits for a medical card were Arabs
144 posted on 01/12/2004 1:52:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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President Bush, left, and Mexican President Vicente Fox shake hands prior to their bilateral meeting during the Special Summit of the Americas in Monterrey, Mexico, Monday, Jan. 12, 2004. Bush won strong support from Fox on Monday for his new immigration proposal as the two leaders worked to smooth strained relations. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsavais)

145 posted on 01/12/2004 1:54:15 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: azhenfud
Jan 12, 4:27 PM EST

Fox Supports Bush Proposal on Immigration

By DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press Writer

President Bush has arrived in Mexico for today's start a hemispheric summit -- and some fence-mending with that country's president.

MONTERREY, Mexico (AP) -- President Bush won strong support from Mexican President Vicente Fox on Monday for his new immigration proposals as the two leaders worked to smooth strained relations and pursue broader trade ties.

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AMERICAS_SUMMIT?SITE=DCTMS&SECTION=HOME

The leaders seemed eager to overcome past differences. Bush invited Fox to his ranch on March 5-6, and said at one point they were good enough friends to disagree "without the loss of friendship."

Bush said that both he and Fox were committed to free trade and that trade between the two countries had grown over the past decade - the lifespan of the North American Free Trade Agreement - from $100 billion to $232 billion.

Fox said Mexico had the lowest unemployment rate in the Americas, and he attributed that to the NAFTA treaty with the United States and Canada. "Trade undoubtedly reduces poverty. Trade among countries promotes human capital," he said.



146 posted on 01/12/2004 1:57:20 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Kay Soze
Here's the Quote Kay:

The president is expected to unveil details of his plan as part of the State of the Union address on Jan. 20. Administration officials say the plan will provide legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants working in the United States. It is unclear how the proposal will be received by lawmakers.

This plan is not amnesty," the president said of his plan to match workers with jobs. "I oppose amnesty because it encourages violation of our laws."

What a ridiculous oxymoron!!!

147 posted on 01/12/2004 1:58:54 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: gubamyster; FairOpinion; FoxFang; FITZ; moehoward; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; ...
Read the most ridiculous statement of the day!!!
148 posted on 01/12/2004 2:00:13 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
The agents are told in a letter from Vice President John Frecker that the proposal offered last week during a White House press conference "implies that the country really wasn´t serious about" immigration enforcement in the first place."

Yep, it's been obvious for a long time. The gov't occasionally gives enforcement lip service, but that's the extent of it.

Borders, language, culture ......dinosaur concepts.

149 posted on 01/12/2004 2:05:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: JustPiper
"from $100 billion to $232 billion."

Knock. Knock. Guess who footed ALL of that $132 billion increase. Look at your American neighbor. A $13.2 billion a year drain from America to Mexico, and President Bush wants to give MORE.

150 posted on 01/12/2004 2:10:37 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: JustPiper
9 million Americans currently out of work. 9 million illegal aliens currently in America. You do the math!

This message is currently scrolling on the website of the Local 2544, National Border Patrol Council, Tucson Sector. It's on the bottom of the page. They have some interesting information there about the immigration and amnesty issues including how the AFL-CIO has sold them out. They even link to the American Patrol website.

151 posted on 01/12/2004 2:22:24 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: JustPiper
The Border Patrol figures they capture 20% of the illegals. That's when the numbers get sickening.

January 2003
26,823 captured means 107,292 got thru.

February
33,849 captured means 135396 got thru.

152 posted on 01/12/2004 2:30:06 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JustPiper
Dog is tasty, Sir
153 posted on 01/12/2004 2:31:43 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: JustPiper
The President's lack of concern for the thoughts of those who are trying to protect America under his watch, once more confirms my perception that he simply lacks the normal American orientation for his own people. It does not really seem to matter that to this Administration that there is such a thing as an American ethnicity; a Nation among our diversity, formulated in the principles that traditional Americans hold in common, North & South, East & West--the concept that George Washington addressed in his Farewell Address; that I have argued for the preservation of in the essay on Immigration & The American Future. I really believe that the President has simply accepted the idiotic Leftist indoctrination, promoted by academic propagandists, who in their youths before World War II were very active on the Far Left (Fellow Travellers with the Communists) who have loomed large in American Academia, for decades, whom we discuss in Myths & Myth Makers In American Higher Education.

If I am being unfair in this conclusion, I wish some person would show me where he has ever questioned the leftist academic mantra of those arguing for an undistinguished, interchangeable humanity, in the interests of a new one world social order; ever shown any understanding at all of the fact that such have deliberately distorted both history and science in an effort to mislead all peoples toward the abandonment of their respective heritages.

William Flax

154 posted on 01/12/2004 2:38:11 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: JustPiper
LOL !!
155 posted on 01/12/2004 2:55:22 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Almost the same as saying the NEA represents what teachers think."

You've got to be kidding. There are hundreds of articles right here on FR that show the majority of "teachers" support the NEA. It's no big secret that many of America's "teacher" are indoctrinating our youth with socialist (aka NEA) values. Where have you been?

156 posted on 01/12/2004 4:02:23 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State - from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: A Navy Vet
The teachers I know think the NEA is a joke.
157 posted on 01/12/2004 4:09:01 PM PST by PRND21
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Offering counter arguments is called 'bashing'?"

You don't offer counter arguements; you offer what you think are witty and clever quips.

I'm still waiting for your answer on other threads to my question: How many of the World's downtrodden do we let per year before our much envied high standard of living is gone? 500,000? 1,000,000? 5,000,000? 15,000,000? 25,000,000? 50,000,000? 100,000,000? How many?

158 posted on 01/12/2004 4:13:32 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State - from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
"Once there is a workable and humane way of handling these people who come to seek productive work, then anyone left who traipses through the fields would probably be up to no good."

Boy, are you naive. So out of the 6 Billion people on the planet, how many should be allowed to "seek productive work" in the US?

159 posted on 01/12/2004 4:19:22 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State - from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: PRND21
"The teachers I know think the NEA is a joke."

Okay. The "teachers" I know, don't. They think the NEA is best thing ever created for the the "students". Possibly the ones you know don't think the NEA is doing enough. Just a thought.

160 posted on 01/12/2004 4:33:38 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State - from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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