[stocksthatgoup]

The President's plan deals with today's reality, not the way we wish it could be. Electronic fingerprinting should be required of all visitors to the United States.

Future Illegals should not be immediately deported but rather those from the south should be sent to prison in Northern Alaska for a period, those from Northern climates might spend time in Death Valley.

Employers should be required to have documentation on hand. Those who hire illegals should face a minimum 1 year in jail per illegal employee.

We need both carrot and big stick to deal with our border situation.

[Happy2BMe]

"Those who hire illegals should face a minimum 1 year in jail per illegal employee."

There go the vegetables, cotton, poultry, beef, corn, and textile industries.

[DoughtyOne]

To: DoughtyOne

The President's plan deals with today's reality, not the way we wish it could be. Electronic fingerprinting should be required of all visitors to the United States.

Perhaps you and the President can explain how fingerprinting applies to illegal immigrants.  Are we going to set up kiosks where the illegals drop by and submit to fingerprinting on the way into our nation?  As for 'today's reality', if you're going to go down that route, we can simply use that excuse every five years and legalize another five to ten million people.  When does it end?

Future Illegals should not be immediately deported but rather those from the south should be sent to prison in Northern Alaska for a period, those from Northern climates might spend time in Death Valley.

We protect the borders of Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq... but can't protect our own.  No, I'm not about to condone incarcerating these people and then paying for their housing and upkeep.  Deport and keep them the hell out.  Allow the same immigration quotas on Mexico as any other foreign nation.

Employers should be required to have documentation on hand. Those who hire illegals should face a minimum 1 year in jail per illegal employee.

There are already stiff penalties for employing illegal immigrants.

We need both carrot and big stick to deal with our border situation.

8 posted on 01/11/2004 3:10:29 PM PST by stocksthatgoup

The President's plan deals with today's reality, not the way we wish it could be. Electronic fingerprinting should be required of all visitors to the United States.

Perhaps you and the President can explain how fingerprinting applies to illegal immigrants.  Are we going to set up kiosks where the illegals drop by and submit to fingerprinting on the way into our nation?  As for 'today's reality', if you're going to go down that route, we can simply use that excuse every five years and legalize another five to ten million people.  When does it end?

Future Illegals should not be immediately deported but rather those from the south should be sent to prison in Northern Alaska for a period, those from Northern climates might spend time in Death Valley.

We protect the borders of Korea, Afghanistan, Iraq... but can't protect our own.  No, I'm not about to condone incarcerating these people and then paying for their housing and upkeep.  Deport and keep them the hell out.  Allow the same immigration quotas on Mexico as any other foreign nation.

Employers should be required to have documentation on hand. Those who hire illegals should face a minimum 1 year in jail per illegal employee.

There are already stiff penalties for employing illegal immigrants.

We need both carrot and big stick to deal with our border situation.

[FITZ]

The President's plan deals with today's reality,

Actually the President's plan is far to vague to deal with any reality.

He left out who pays for the health care of the guest workers and their families? Who pays for the high costs of educating their children? What happens to the new illegals or their employers who bypass the blue card system just like they bypassed the green card system and the many guest worker programs we already have in place? Is the blue card for only the otherwise lawabiding illegals? Or will it be given to those who broke other kinds of laws like driving without insurance and DWI?

And what is the Mexican government doing back home to change it's laws and culture so that such a wealthy country wouldn't have such extreme poverty for the majority of it's citizens?