[Lucky Dog]

Military officers do not have the option of declaring portions of the UCMJ to be “dumb rules.” Whether you think a particular article is “dumb,” or not, only Congress is empowered under the Constitution to change it.

You either “honorably” follow your oath, or you “dishonorably” do not. Your personal preferences are either “honorably” subjugated to the discipline required or you leave the service.

[cowdog77]

All this debate and point/counter-point. The actual point here is that what these people do "in their closets" is so nasty, gross and repulsive. We're not talking about a group of people who "choose an alternate lifestyle". What we're talking about is folks who_______ and _____ when they _____, etc. Fill in the blanks and then realize how absurd it is that they would want to flaunt it. All beside the fact that God doesn't like it!

[Chief Inspector]

Okay, let's have all gays in the military request discharge tomorrow. Oh, sh*t. We'd be in a situation 1000 times worse than when we canned the dozen or so gay translators who specialized in Arabic and Korean. The point is: the whole thing is just not practical. Military service has nothing to do with being gay. So let's get rid of the weird rules that make them seem related. S'all I'm sayin'.