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What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."
CookingWithCarlo.com ^ | 01/11/2004 | Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author

Posted on 01/11/2004 2:37:16 AM PST by carlo3b

 
IMMIGRATION INDIGNATION, holy smoke! DID YOU SEE WHAT I SAW?

What ever happened to  "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."

They came here for several centuries for the same reasons – freedom and hope -- and then a Frenchman created a statue that embodied their hopes and dreams. And it embodied America's promise as well. "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."
THE STATUE OF LIBERTY
I have been watching with a bit of sadness, and more than a little concern, the debate that has been raging over President Bush's Administration proposed guest worker program. I haven't seen anything definitive yet, but I have to admit that I have some uneasiness about what is being said, and what may be done.

First and foremost, I do not wish to trivialize the genuine fear and the authentic concern that most of the protesters of the proposal have expressed. Nor do I disagree with the legitimate anxiety over what the future may hold if this proposal is actually what is being portrayed, "a blanket amnesty for illegal aliens". That being the case there would be in fact, national as well as historical principles at stake, and we must be ever vigilant in the protection of our liberties as well as our sovereignty.

"Principles have no real force except when one is well-fed."
-Mark Twain
Immigration is now and always has been a tricky affair. The delicate balance of need and want, verses can and should. We can certainly understand someone living in desperate conditions wanting to improving their lot in life. What better place to do it than the greatest nation on earth. America is the envy of the world. We are a magnet, and a beacon.

Who wouldn't choose to be free, unless as is the case in too many places, they are incapable of understanding the reality of freedom. Who wouldn't want to have wealth, if we all agreed on what wealth really is. To someone without anything to feed themselves or their children, a neighbor possessing a sack of flour, is indeed wealthy.

To a nation of plenty, it has to be understandable that a desperate and starving parent wouldn't break down a door, or cross a sweltering desert to feed their child, or a family would risk their lives in a sealed boxcar to work for a steady meal.

I must admit, and state for the record, that as a policy, I firmly believe that all law breaking must be prevented, and law breakers should be punished.. the sooner the better.

That said, I may be a candidate for a flogging I might be at most a fugitive from justice, or at the very least a shameful hypocrite, because I have in the past, and without a moment of indecision would again, give employment to someone I suspect but cannot prove, may be an undocumented worker, ..yes, AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!

I have experience with this issue.. up close and very personal...

I AM A PRODUCT OF FORMER ILLEGAL ALIENS.. Thank God.

As a young boy, I watched as my 92 year old great Grandfather, an immigrant from the bowels of depravity in Italy, as he stood in a crowded church basement and took an oath, and recited the Pledge of Allegiance to his beloved country to finally become a citizen of the United States Of America. For him, becoming a real member of this wonderful country was the culmination of a lifetime of work, and struggle and hope, and prayers.

My great Grandfather, his aged body bent from years of hard work, managed to stand tall as he listened closely to my uncle, who whispered in his ear, everything that was said from the podium. In those days, hopeful immigrants had to study and be tested to prove they knew enough about this country, and it's founding, history and government, to be qualified to contribute to it's greatness.

He had done his homework, and he didn't want to miss a word.

It was that day, in the cold damp basement, in a soft grainy light, walls decorated with flags, and with his fine and honorable family looking on, he and a large group gathered to prove that they were worthy patriots. That day this proud man who had overcome language, illiteracy and poverty, was at last to be rewarded, he was finally a real American.

At the conclusion of the ceremony, he broke down and cried for the first and only time I ever remember in his long and distinguished life. At that moment,  I remember thinking, it must be special to be an American.

Yes, my family crossed a border from Canada into the United States in the dead of night in hopes of securing a better life for their children. They suffered the pain of fear, poverty and ridicule to take a chance. What was being said throughout the world, was true, America was and still is a nation of opportunity.

I do hear the call of fears and doubt of my fellow Americans, and I share the pain when my neighbors hurt as a nation. There is real worry about the costs and loss of jobs. There are legitimate concerns about lawlessness, and precedent of the apparent "reward the lawbreakers", at the expense of the law-abiding and innocent.

"A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. Every day sends to their graves obscure men whose timidity prevented them from making a first effort."
-Sydney Smith
I know we cannot be the world policemen, or pantry. We are a mighty nation built upon a foundation of hard work and sacrifice. Much of that labor was done by immigrants, many of which were here illegally not by choice but by necessity. Many, as my family, didn't do it as a thief, but as poor frightened peasants, who came without documentation because the limits on Italians were reached, and they couldn't afford to wait until the bureaucracy opened the doors again.

Upon arrival, frightened and stranded in a strange place without money, friends or family, they did the unthinkable, they prayed and began working until they were safe, solid and accepted.  They raised a family that contributed and their offspring went to war, and they became solid threads in the fabric of their chosen country. There were a few that gave my folks a boost, a chance, a lifeline until they were secure.

So now the dirty laundry, I did the same for others, but I am apparently not alone. This isn't a unique thought to bend the some rules to help those who need help when the need is the greatest.

History is replete with law breakers that did what turned out to be a blessing. There has always been a few that took the law into their own hands when it seemed that was the only way. Moses, was spared by a benevolent stranger. Thank God a man named Schindler broke the laws to save a few hundred Jews from the Nazi's and where would we be if the Underground Railroad was derailed, because it was against the law to save a slave.

"We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances - to choose one's own way."
-Victor Frankl
The overwhelming numbers of our newest immigrants aren't fleeing death, or slavery, and I am not Schindler, but I could see the desperation in their eyes and feel the need in their hearts. And what was I offering? A job, and friendship. A job that few Americans wanted, and friendship that has lasted decades.
"The true meaning of life is to plant trees, under whose shade you do not expect to sit."
-Nelson Henderson
There are jobs that nobody wants and few would do, unless they had no other choice, a situation which rarely arises in our country.  But they are good jobs that need to be done. By and large these jobs are hard, thankless, dirty, repetitive jobs, at odds with a normal schedule. However, they are at the limits of those that need them.

Contrary to popular belief, almost no large companies would ever pay cash to save a few dollars, or underpay wages to a poor man because he is illegal. We never paid under the table, or less than the going rate because we were a well known company, and a scandal of that pettiness, would have harmed everyone, including hundreds of employees, almost all homegrown Americans.

  "Something that has always puzzled me all my life is why, when I am in special need of help, the good deed is usually done by somebody on whom I have no claim."
-William Feather, The Business of Life
Lest you think it was all one sided, these workers were solid as a rock, and usually faithful as a clock. The work ethic in other countries is as it was in much earlier times in our history. The bottom line is they needed us, and we needed them. They stayed with me and climbed the ladder in the all American tradition, and I watched them with pride, and admiration.

For those that are really concerned about these poor people taking the bread out of your mouth, unless you are a pot scrubber, or a garlic picker, you are at little risk.. And to ease your mind, I have discovered a new money making venture, one that has a fabulous track record. This one has recent and past history has never failed to pay-off. It's remarkable in it's simplicity!

Here it is... bet against the fatalist, place all of your available milk money on the person needing something, and against the person wanting to keep it from him.. in short, betting against profits of doom.

Bet the farm, or the futon, that the screams are always louder during an election year, and the spin is more spit than polish. Just like the generations that preceded us the Italians, Irish, Germans, Haitians and Vietnamese, these folks will continue to be a blessing to our country. Take a deep breath and think about it without the shrill voices whispering apocalyptic threats.

Before you make your final decision on this matter, ask yourself a simple question. What would you do if you were in their place, but first, take a long look around your home, in you fridge and in your pantry.. and just for an added effect, and take an extra moment thinking of your children. Perhaps, you'll come away with a slightly different outlook.  Then again, maybe not.. you have that right, my once removed, illegal uncles and a lot of others died for your right to be wrong..

I am proud of our President, he knew there would be anger and once again he faced the problem head on. Dealing with this now is going to save us all in the long run, and as to the near future.. remember we are free Americans thanks to our immigrant forefathers, and some day as in the past, these new Americans may well save you and your country...

  "You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today."
-Abraham Lincoln

"One of the tests of leadership is the ability to recognize a problem before it becomes an emergency."
-Arnold Glasgow

GOD BLESS AMERICA



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To: Hon
Knock it off or face suspension or banning. Thank you.
342 posted on 01/14/2004 10:06:14 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Jim Cane
AMERICANS FIRST !!!

Vote Tancredo in 2004.
343 posted on 01/14/2004 10:11:59 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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Maceira, Leonardo---- R-537. R-710.
Maceiras Rivero, Francisco J.---- R-537. R-710.
Maceo, Antonio---- R-726. Unique.
Maceo Masque, Antonio---- R-537. R-710.
Machado Concepcion, Jose Rafael (Francisco)---- R-709.
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(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Adrian---- R-537. R-710.
(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
(Macias) Macia Vinent (Vinet), Roberto---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
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Mackenzie, Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal, Jesus---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal Arencibia, Romualdo J.---- R-537. R-710.
Madrigal Mendigutia, Rafael M.---- R-537. R-710.
Madruga Otero, (Cristo) Salvador---- R-709.
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Maldonado Pimienta, Orlando V.---- R-537. R-710.
Mancebo Garcia Rios, Jorge S.---- R-713.
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Mancebo Rodriguez, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Manduley Curbelo, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Manito Morales, Gustavo E. D.---- R-713.
Manos [Nanos] Lazo, Carlos---- R-537. R-710.
Manrique Garcia, Orlando---- R-537. R-710.
Manso Rojas, Andres---- R-537. R-710.
Mantecon Moraquez, Felipe S.---- R-537. R-710.
Mantilla, Noelio E.---- R-537. R-710.
Maqueira Perez, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Mara Barros, Alfredo M.---- R-537. R-710.
Marill/ Marrill Anguera, Eddy---- R-537. R-710.
Marin Dominguez, Juan T.---- R-537. R-710.
Marina Aguirre, Jose D.---- R-537. R-710.
Marino, Manuel---- R-537. R-710.
Marquet Alderete, Jorge---- R-537. R-710.
Marquet Martinez, Fernando---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Calero, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Franklin, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Ortega, Abelardo E.---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Regueira, Mario G.---- R-537. R-710.
Marrero Sanchez, Eraclio---- R-537. R-710.
Mars, Thoedore---- R-734.
Martin Carrera Correa, Hermo---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Gonzalez, Feliberto R. (Rafael)---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Labrador, Adolfo---- R-537. R-710.
Martin (Marti) Manso, Nestor---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Suarez, Jose Rafael---- R-709.
Martin Suarez, Lucio---- R-537. R-710.
Martin Valdivia, Manuel Severo---- R-709. Unique.
Martinez, Esteban---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Felix C.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez, Pedro---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (A.), A. Emiliano---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Arbona, Manuel D. J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Camejo, Faustino---- R-709.
Martinez Castro, Luis Enrique---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Cruz, Ortelio Fidel---- R-709.
Martinez De La Cruz, Ricardo---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez De La Paz, Reinaldo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Delgado, Armando J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Echenique, (Esteban) Alberto---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Estrada, Joaquin R.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Farinas, Hugo---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Faura, Jose----- PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Fernandez, Martin---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (Garcia) Garces, Pedro Celestino---- R-709
Martinez Garriga, Antonio Santiago---- R-709.
Martinez Gonzalez, Lutberto---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Granja, Segundo C.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Guasch, Racso---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Hernandez, Idelfonso---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Herrera, Epifanio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Leiro, Julio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Llano, Eduardo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Llano, Humberto---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Lopez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Malo Rui Ruiz, Mario---- R-709
Martinez (Martines) Ortega, Joaquin R.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Mazon, Everardo---- Unique.
Martinez Miller, (Orlando) Lando Sixto---- R-709.
Martinez Monteagudo, Serafin---- R-713. Unique.
Martinez Morejon, Ramon---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Olivero, Cesar Ernesto---- R-709.
Martinez Ordoqui, Waldo De J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ortega, Luciano---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ortega, Ricardo---- R-709. Unique.
Martinez Paradera (Paradeda), Pablo De J.---- R-713.
Martinez Quevedo, Marmo M.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Ravento (Reventos), Enrique Tito---- R-709.
Martinez Reina, Emilio F.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Reina, Fernando J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Riesgo, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Rivero, Pedro Antonio)---- R-709.
Martinez Rodriguez---- Sergio F.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Roig/ Reig, Oscar G.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Martinez Suarez, Jose J.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Tosar, Guillermo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez (Urioste) Uriosti, Jose Raul---- R-709.
Martinez Vazquez, Eduardo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Vega, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Venegas, Emilio---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Viera, Domingo---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Vilela, Jose M.---- R-537. R-710.
Martinez Viqueira, Delfin---- R-537. R-710.
Marty, Francisco---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Albio/ Abio, Angel---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Landa, Angel---- R-537. R-710.
Maruri Landa, Fernando---- R-537. R-710.
Mas C. [Canosa], Roberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mas Canosa, Jorge---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Mas Estruch, Rafael De La Caridad---- R-729. Unique.
Masser (Nasser) Pujol, Nilo O.---- R-537. R-710.
Masvidal Diaz, Ramon---- R-537. R-710.
Masvidal Jury, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Mateo Sierra, Alfredo---- R-713. Unique.
Mateu (Matas) Rodriguez, Pedro Jesus C.---- R-709.
Matias Vazquez, Martin---- R-537. R-710.
Matienzo Ugartemendia, Roberto Ursino---- R-709.
Matos Gonzalez, David Elias---- R-537. R-710. [See Also David Gonzalez]
Maxwell Almeida Vieites, Augusto---- R-537. R-710.
Maza Barrios, Alfredo De La (M)---- R-537.
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Mederos, Eligio---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Baez, Ezequiel---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Lopez, Cornelio---- R-537. R-710.
Mederos Rojas, Alberto Eladio---- R-709.
Medina, Carlos---- R-537. R-710.
Medina, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Castillo, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Estrada, Arael---- R-537. R-710.
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Medina Mouriz, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Medina Perez, Luis M.---- R-537. R-710.
Mellado Rodriguez, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
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Miguel Rivero, Enrique Teofilo---- R-709.
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Miranda, Sixto---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Agramonte, Joe Eugenio De---- R-709.
Miranda Hernandez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Hernandez, Segundo M.---- R-537. R-710. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Miranda La Fuente, Jorge De---- R-713. Unique.
Miranda (Olano) Olance, Salvador---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Pino, Rodolfo---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Rodriguez, Raul A.---- R-537. R-710.
Miranda Valladares, Alberto---- R-537. R-710.
Mireles (Mirelles) Mampeller (Mompelier), Gilberto---- R-537. R-710.
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Miyares Sotolongo, Marcelino---- R-537. R-710.
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Moas Sanchez, Felix---- R-537. R-710.
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Molina Buchillon, Manuel---- R-537. R-710.
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Molina Godinez, Manuel---- R-710.
Molina Perez, Hugo P.---- R-537. R-710.
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Molina Saiz, Francisco Gustavo---- R-709.
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Monso Rojas, Andres---- R-537. R-710.
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Morales Amador, Jose F.---- R-537. R-710.
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Morales Cruz, Jose A.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Cruz, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Diaz, Santiago---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Moreno, Jesus M.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Miguel G.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Ricardo---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Navarrete, Rolando---- R-729. Unique.
Morales Pelegrin, Miguel G.---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Pelegrin (Oelegrin), Hiram Avit---- R-709.
Morales Sanchez, Herminio---- R-537. R-710.
Morales Tomay, Alfredo---- R-729. Unique.
More Hidalgo, Julio A. L.---- R-713.
Moreira Izquierdo, Herberto (Heriberto)---- R-537. R-710.
Moreira Perez, Ernesto---- R-537. R-710.
Morejon Figueroa, Pablo A. (Armando)---- R-537. R-710.
Morejon Hernandez, Ramon---- R-709
Morell Varona, Jose Julio---- R-709.
Moreno, Bernardo---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Alvarez, Luis---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Hernandez, Enrique---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Hernandez, Marcelino---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Robles, Lucio---- R-537. R-710.
Moreno Sedano, Daniel E.---- R-537. R-710.
Morffi Blanco, Sergio E.---- R-537. R-710.
Morgado Lado, Angel---- R-709. Unique.
Morgan Jewell, Clyde---- R-537. R-710.
Morin Rodriguez, Felipe---- R-537. R-710.
Moro Perez, Idelfonso---- R-537. R-710.
Morse De La Barrera, Luis C.---- R-713.
Morse Delgado, Luis Enriquez---- R-709.
Moya, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Moya Garcia, Rolando---- R-537. R-710.
Moya/ Noya, Jose---- R-537. R-710.
Muinas (Muina) Bonis, Alberto---- R-709. PHOTO Fort Benning OCS [Correct Name Spelling Is Bonis by Margarita P. Muiña, Niece]
Muir Celorio, William Denis---- R-709.
Mujica Herrera, Angel Roberto---- R-709 PHOTO Fort Benning OCS
Munoz, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz, Rafael---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz De Juan, Mario---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz Guidi, Arturo---- R-537. R-710.
Munoz/ Nunez Rojas, Sergio---- R-537. R-710.
Murgado Ledo, Angel E.---- R-537. R-710.
Muriell (Marril) Soto, Pedro---- R-537. R-710.
Murillo Fleitas, Alfredo---- R-537. R-710.
Murillo (Fleitas), Alfredo---- 1963 03-13 Mh12d*
Mursili (Mursull) Collazo (Ollazo), Evangelista Isidro---- R-709.
Mustelier Artigas, Joe L.---- R-537. R-710.
(Mustelier) Muestelier Muestelier, Luis E. (Enriquez)---- R-537. R-710.
Mut Montero, Pablo C.---- R-537. R-710.
Muxo Ibarraguirre, Mario F.---- R-537. R-710.
Muxo Lopez, Raul---- R-537. R-710.
Muzio Diaz, Julio---- R-537. R-710.

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_026-050/doc0035.html
344 posted on 01/15/2004 4:19:33 PM PST by Hon
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To: All
From the same site:

EXPLANATION OF
THE BOP NAME LIST

THERE IS NO COMPLETE LIST of the veterans of the Bay of Pigs in the public domain. All printed lists have SPELLING ERRORS and are NOT COMPLETE. This list is an attempt at completeness, while at the same time, grouping all other lists with their spelling variations.

The area known as "Bayo de Cochinos" is NOT translated properly into "Bay of Pigs". The correct translation should read, the "Bay of the Cochinos Fish". There is a fish known in Cuba as the "cochino" fish.

This list of the Veterans of the Bay of Pigs Invasion includes members of those who landed on the beach at "Playa Giron", Naval personnel, Air Force personnel, members of Operation-40, members of the "Second Wave" which never left Florida, members of certain "Infiltration Teams", members of "Higinio 'Nino' Diaz Ane's Commando Team", the Cuban Revolutionary Council, CRC, certain Americans who participated in support efforts, and others as noted.

http://cuban-exile.com/doc_026-050/doc0034.html

Still one would expect that they would get the US military personnel correct.
345 posted on 01/15/2004 4:26:55 PM PST by Hon
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To: Hon; carlo3b
And your point is??????????
346 posted on 01/16/2004 8:37:21 AM PST by Howie
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To: Howie
That there were no active duty US military personnel in the Bay of Pigs invasion.
347 posted on 01/16/2004 9:37:41 AM PST by Hon
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To: carlo3b

What an inspiring human being you are! You have demonstrated the foundation of what this country is about in your compassionate message or the original post of this thread.


Beyond that, immigrants historically have not been the problem when it comes to lack of jobs, anymore than now. It's a lovely ruse to blame the crack-footed family, who survived a trek across the desert to pluck fruit off the vines and branches of our trees. Especially when Ravish Satindar and Ying Lin are seated comfortably at computer stations once manned by American workers, now stationed in Beijing and Delhi or Mumbai, addressing IT concerns of American Express customers. Or, answering billing questions for Americans who dialed the 800 number on the back of their Mastercard. Mega corporations, with global locations have used outsourcing and offshoring and dangled the immigration carrot nicely, veiling the fact that they are removing American jobs and using our borders as a turnstile for profit.

Racism and immigration have served as the target for labor shortages throughout history, generating legislation aimed at controlling immigration. After the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act was signed, Chinese immigration to the U.S. turned illegal. In 1906, the U.S. initiated a "Gentleman's Agreement," that excluded Japanese immigrants. In 1907, the Dillingham Commission was formed to study immigration patterns and effects concluding that "inferior" migrants from places in southeastern Europe, such as Austria--Hungary, Russia, Italy, Turkey, Lithuania, Romania, and Greece, increasingly dominated European immigration. The blame for the nation's problems were laid at the doorstep of immigration and the quality of people entering the country. Doesn't that sound familiar now?

In the late nineteenth century a brain trust of academics, scientists, and assorted "brilliant" minds concluded that any "race" that did not originate in northwestern Europe lacked the mental, physical, or social capacities of Anglo-Saxons. They claimed these "Anglo-Saxon" traits were responsible for the finer points of civilization. Of course, we now recognize this folly as something referred to historically as the Anglo-Saxon myth and know it was used as a racist prop to blame the immigrant for a society’s social problems. Those studies gave rise to the study of Eugenics which also was disproven.

In short, Americans have sought out various ways to lay the blame for the ills of our country on what ever wave of immigration appeared to be the current trend and they are doing that now.

Your post gave many of us hope who have grown to wonder if America's lowbrow approach to immigration has reared its ugly head again. I want to commend you for writing a well thought out post and exemplifying what it really means to be an American. You are the finest example of what this country is all about.

Signed
An Immigrant's daughter


348 posted on 06/03/2006 8:13:22 AM PDT by animmigrantsdaughter
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