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Biblical Scholar Howard Dean Declares People Perfect
1/10/04
| Russ Jowski
Posted on 01/10/2004 9:41:11 PM PST by Russ_Jowski
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I think Dean should do as they did in the Old Testament and "saddle his ass and depart."
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To: Russ_Jowski
This article is so offensive in so many ways, that I simply will note my dissent to most of its content. It is simply awful, so awful, that it might be included as Dean campaign literature.
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posted on
01/10/2004 9:48:11 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Russ_Jowski
Said Dean: "I think one of the most inspiring stories in the Bible was the battle to the death between David and Hercules."
To: Russ_Jowski
God created Good and Evil.
Dean is proof, what a Ying Yang!!
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posted on
01/10/2004 9:52:00 PM PST
by
mylife
To: Torie
Huh?
You must have read a different article, because this essay pretty much calls Dean an ignorant and deceitful hypocrite. Somehow I don't see that in the promo pack.
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posted on
01/10/2004 9:53:05 PM PST
by
visualops
To: visualops
Well the article in an incendiary way compares gays with some other very bad types, and airily assumes none are hard wired that way, and then attacks Dean for marrying a Jew, and allegedly allowing his children to be raised as Jews. I find it all vomitous, totally. I want this wing of "conservatism" marginalized as much as possible, both for political reasons (the politics is poison), but more to the point, that I find it simply "wrong" in a moral sense, my morals, my morality, and that is what I live by, with no apologies.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:01:01 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Russ_Jowski
"....if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people."
Yeah, and if God had thought child molesting was not a sin he wouldn't have created pedophiles.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:06:03 PM PST
by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: Torie
I respectfully disagree with your take on this article.
Dean said: From a religious point of view, if God had thought homosexuality is a sin, he would not have created gay people.
When someone claims to speak for God, I take issue when what they speak contradicts God's own Word.
He opened himself up for this. He should be called on it, imo.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:07:36 PM PST
by
Ms. AntiFeminazi
(Free Mumia!, er no, Free Padilla! wait, that's been done...FREE SADDAM! Yeah, that's the ticket!)
To: Russ_Jowski
Let us not forget that Dean is a Godsend. He will deliver not only the WH to the GOP in '04, but more senators, reps, governors, etc.
We should therefore withhold our attacks until he is the nominee.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:10:43 PM PST
by
Buck W.
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
I understand, but I go my own way. The article struck a nerve. Granted, I don't invoke God as to what He intends, if He exists, on such matters. That is way beyond my pay grade. I operate on a secular plane in matters of the public square, albeit through the prism of my own a priori values, which no doubt have some roots from some points illuminated by religion.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:15:28 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Nathaniel Fischer
I don't know. It is a set of values I acquired from the example of my parents (both also atheist or agnostic, but splendid and "moral" human beings), and from life, and intellectual reflection.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:18:14 PM PST
by
Torie
To: Russ_Jowski
INTREP - IDIOT ALERT!
To: Russ_Jowski
Let us not forget that Dean is a Godsend. He will deliver not only the WH to the GOP in '04, but more senators, reps, governors, etc.
We should therefore withhold our attacks until he is the nominee.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:21:59 PM PST
by
Buck W.
To: Torie
o?o??o§8?o?(bo§Li?ares gays with some other very bad types
Not really. It just says that if gays don't sin by homosexual activities, other types must not sin by doing what they do either. The logical implication doesn't change according to how bad the other types are, but if it makes you more comfortable you can substitute people who become unreasonably angry when they get cut off in traffic.
then attacks Dean for marrying a Jew, and allegedly allowing his children to be raised as Jews.
There's a direct injunction against marrying unbelievers in the New Testament. If Dean were a sincere Christian, wouldn't he have cared what the Bible says about one of the most important decisions of his life? And wouldn't he have been more concerned with his children's spiritual well-being? Dean himself made his religion an issue.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:23:08 PM PST
by
A.J.Armitage
(http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
To: Buck W.
"Let us not forget that Dean is a Godsend. He will deliver not only the WH to the GOP in '04, but more senators, reps, governors, etc."To all democrats, Dean for president.
To: A.J.Armitage
o?o??o§8?o?(bo§Li? I certainly agree.
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:25:26 PM PST
by
Torie
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