Bush's immigration reform helps illegals -- and us, too

AJC ^ | 1/9/04

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

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[dirtboy]

The Bush proposals, which face a divided Congress, essentially would permit undocumented immigrantsto work for three years, with an option to extend for a maximum of three additional years. And then, unless the worker has obtained a green card that authorizes employment, the migrant would be obliged to return home. Since only about 10,000 green cards are issued yearly, it is unlikely the temporary workers, an estimated 8 million or more people, would gain permanent rights to work.

Of course, these folks are already working here without permits, so what makes the AJC think that, after six years, they would go home - doesn't it make a bit more sense that, having worked once illegally, they would be willing to work again illegally to stay here?

[primeval patriot]

And then, unless the worker has obtained a green card that authorizes employment, the migrant would be obliged to return home.

I'm confident the migrant will go right back into "the shadows".

[thoughtomator]

Green cards aren't for employment. They're for permanent residency.

Typical poorly-researched crap from the AJC.

[Dr. Marten]

Helps us too?

Barf!

[Zipporah]

I was wondering where the BARF alert was...

[StonyBurk]

Seem to recall a PBS documentary on American history seen
today-- that spoke of how the South was dependent upon
cheap labor --especially once they determined cotton was king.will it take another Civil War to end this modern slave
trade?Just curious.

[StonyBurk]

Why shore it helps us too. I know a "Nam Vet who had his
car wrecked by some of these outstanding undocumented workers. Now they was drunk-- and drivin way over the speed limit(but lots of American citizens do that too)the driver
had No Colorado Drivers licence,nor insurance. So my friends car was a total loss. He had hospital bills because he was taken to a local hospital not the VA -and
as the guys who were at fault were Mexican nationals and
Not US citizens--and as the owner of the vehicle was suddenly living in Mexico gues who got stuck?

[jpsb]

A critical component of all sensible and effective reforms must be a better system of enforcing laws that prohibit the employment of undocumented workers. Employers should be required to verify, quickly and easily, that prospective workers are properly documented.

Heard the same crap in 86, this time I ain't buying it. The elites want cheap, dirt cheap labor that's what this is all about. Screw them.

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

The Bush proposals, which face a divided Congress...

How would your perspectives change upon viewing this as strictly political?

[Dr. Marten]

"How would your perspectives change upon viewing this as strictly political?"

Please expand...

[dirtboy]

How would your perspectives change upon viewing this as strictly political?

If I get hit by a car, at the time I would tend to view whether I was hit by accident or on purpose as secondary to the fact that I'm lying on the pavement in dire need of medical attention.

[crz]

Look here folks. This is a political move plain and simple. A dumb one none the less.
Polititions are simply worse than prostitutes. At least with a prostitute you know your gonna get something-it might be good or bad, but at least you get something in return. With a politition all you get is.."gimme money sucker and keep up the hard work." Now get out there and make some more! As they slap you on the back with one hand while holding the knife with the other which they'll stab you with.

GW Bush is no diff...except he's the best we got and at least we constant and does what he says, wright or wrong at least he does it. Whats the viable alternative?

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

< "The Bush proposals, which face a divided Congress... >

1. Bill says could apply for 3 year...
2. 3 year program if approved by Congress
3. How do Soc Sec and taxes apply?
4. How are these people now documented in the system?
5. Consider each party and who wants tougher or more lenient restrictions, how their stand will affect them in the eyes of the voters, and what repercussions will apply to Bush.

[keri]

What's the viable alternative?

Haven't you heard? The sheepherders have said we have nowhere to go.

When I have nowhere to go I stay home.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Bush and his friend, President Vicente Fox of Mexico...

That says it all right there. Fox may be Bush's friend but he's not ours. Let him fix his own country's problems.

[B4Ranch]

"the migrant would be obliged to return home."

That slaps all American taxpayers right in the face. They felt obliged to come here illegally using phony ID to get on our welfare systems. They sure as hell will not feel obliged to leave the "paid freedom" country.

[B4Ranch]

Green cards=permanent residency which permits legal employment.