To: All
Also, people, note that there is nothing new under the sun. Germany has had difficulty absorbing East Germany and the EU in general faces a mass immigration problem from the poor countries of eastern Europe. The individual EU countries also have the occasional internal cries of "destruction of culture" and things of that sort.
How does what is happening differ from the enormous influx of Italians and Irish in the late 1800's and early 1900's? The proportion was about the same for the population as a whole then. Perhaps one might claim the difference was that by boat, they arrived legally vs Mexicans arriving illegally. I think the numbers are what, 8 million illegals and 60% are Mexican? Legality is a matter of passing a law so that can be waved away. What really matters is the mathematics. The proportion to today's 300 million would seem very similar to Irish/Italian influx to the US population of that time.
The point being, "the country" survived just fine.
66 posted on
01/10/2004 8:45:59 AM PST by
Owen
To: Owen; dirtboy
70 posted on
01/10/2004 9:00:13 AM PST by
Happy2BMe
(r)
To: Owen
Not all those who applied to enter the U.S. were allowed in, but those that did learned to speak ENGLISH; another difference between that wave of immigrants and this one. There was no special treatment that favored the Irish or Italians (just the opposite).
Today a non-citizen receives health, education and welfare for free. There are many cases of Americans being denied medical care (because they could not afford it), but would have had they not been citizens. And, the police often look the other way, and in fact are told to look the other way in many cases when an illegal breaks a traffic law, because the processing takes all day. And, uninsured illegals mean that your insurance pays for all the damages in a traffic accident. The costs keep going up.
The early German immigrants (including their children) often became indentured servants for several years just to pay for their passage here. Of course, they came here to escape religious persecution not to milk the American system for every dime they could and send it back to Mexico. The early immigrants became a part of America and assimilated in every way.
There really is no comparison.
To: Owen
The point being, "the country" survived just fine.
The country moved ideologically to the left between 1880 and 1940. The primary reasons were the economic dislocations from industrialization, innovations of agriculture, and immigration.
If you look at the labor movement, the socialist movements, the progressive movements, and the communist party all of these were dominated by immigrants and their children and grandchildren.
Take a good look at immigrant voting patterns and tell me again that America will be fine.
141 posted on
01/11/2004 12:16:24 AM PST by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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