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Legislator to take new shot on guns
Lawerence Journal World ^
| January 7, 2004
| Scott Rothschild
Posted on 01/10/2004 5:13:08 AM PST by FSPress
Topeka Gov. Kathleen Sebelius' opposition to a bill allowing Kansans to carry concealed handguns may not matter, according to a northeast Kansas legislator who is pushing for the law.
Rep. Candy Ruff, a Democrat from Leavenworth, said she hoped the legislation would win by such large margins in the Legislature that it would survive a veto by Sebelius. Overturning a veto would require two-thirds votes in the House and Senate.
"My whole take on this is to work to make it veto-proof in order not to involve the governor," Ruff said.
Kansas is one of only a handful of states that doesn't allow its residents to carry concealed guns. Proposals to allow concealed carry were vetoed in 1997 by then-Gov. Bill Graves, and died in the Senate in 1999.
But this is the year for passage, Ruff said.
"It's ridiculous that we don't have this," she said. "Its time has come regardless of who the governor is. A strong majority of Kansas citizens are interested."
Sebelius, a Democrat, has said she would support a bill limited to allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed guns because "they have the special training and the street smarts to deal with it."
But she said she opposed a broader bill because law enforcement officials have told her that it would not reduce crime, and major employers, such as Hallmark Cards, "feel it is a dangerous proposition."
Legislators to tackle law and order issues (1-3-03) Kansas in crosshairs of concealed-gun bill (9-29-03)
Ruff dismissed Sebelius' comments, saying the record was clear from other states that concealed-carry laws have not jeopardized safety in the workplace.
Ruff, who is married to a Leavenworth police officer, said most law enforcement officials supported allowing law-abiding citizens to have concealed weapons.
She said safeguards would be built into the bill that would require Kansans to receive training and undergo background checks before they could be eligible for a gunholders' permit.
Ruff said she had no desire to carry a weapon and was not a member of the NRA. She said her support was based on what she said was the constitutional right to carry a gun and protect oneself.
The bill hasn't been drafted yet, Ruff said, but it would be similar to one proposed in 1999. Under that measure, people eligible to receive a concealed-carry permit would have to be 21 or older, complete a safety and training course and have no history of mental illness or substance abuse in the previous five years. In addition, applicants could not have any felony convictions or be under a court restraining order
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; ccw
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posted on
01/10/2004 5:13:08 AM PST
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FSPress
To: *bang_list
Kansas CCW info
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01/10/2004 5:14:05 AM PST
by
FSPress
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To: FSPress
I don't think the 2/3 vote will pass on Sebelius' veto. We couldn't even get it passed with Bill Graves as governor. (He vetoed as well)
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posted on
01/10/2004 5:19:21 AM PST
by
Crazieman
To: FSPress
It is always surprising to be reminded that Kansas has no conceal and carry. Kansans seem to be awfully quiet about it, though--so maybe it's just not a big issue with them.
Even though this lady is a democrat, she seems to have a good grasp of the Second Amendment. I wish her well.
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posted on
01/10/2004 5:31:19 AM PST
by
basil
To: FSPress
the second amendment says nothing about having to complete a safety and training course... it does say that the right to carry shall not be infringed....
my only problem with these right to carry democrats is that they will infringe by denying people completion of the course....
jmt teeman
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posted on
01/10/2004 6:50:54 AM PST
by
teeman8r
To: FSPress
"Sebelius, a Democrat, has said she would support a bill limited to allowing retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed guns because "they have the special training and the street smarts to deal with it.""
Translation: Cops are ubermensch
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posted on
01/10/2004 6:51:53 AM PST
by
Monty22
To: FSPress
But this is the year for passage, Ruff said. This is an election year.
The fun thing about this is the dems still haven't noticed the correlation behind supporting gun control and losing elections.
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posted on
01/10/2004 7:50:36 AM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: FSPress
Jdege's map.
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posted on
01/10/2004 7:53:34 AM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Shooter 2.5
Correction: Missouri's still out.
To: FSPress
"Ruff said she had no desire to carry a weapon and was not a member of the NRA. She said her support was based on what she said was the constitutional right to carry a gun and protect oneself."
I wonder when the Supreme court is going to start thinking like Ruff.
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posted on
01/10/2004 8:23:58 AM PST
by
B4Ranch
(Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
Hopefully, not after the 22ND of this month.
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posted on
01/10/2004 9:51:01 AM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: FSPress
Once again I just don't understand why these politicians can't grasp the meaning and context of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
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posted on
01/10/2004 10:01:28 AM PST
by
ChefKeith
(NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
To: Shooter 2.5
I had lost track of where we are in the Show Me.
To: Shooter 2.5
But she said she opposed a broader bill because law enforcement officials have told her that it would not reduce crime, and major employers, such as Hallmark Cards, "feel it is a dangerous proposition."
Just Damn....
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posted on
01/10/2004 4:41:44 PM PST
by
MichaelDammit
(unless its GOOD beer, it aint worth having....)
To: MichaelDammit
I can't wait for some dem anti-gun nitwit to say that Dodge City will turn into Dodge City.
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posted on
01/10/2004 5:27:08 PM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: FSPress
From a DEMOCRAT? Must be one of the rare Dingell ones still out there.
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posted on
01/10/2004 5:30:01 PM PST
by
Dan from Michigan
("And it's worth the sweat, and it's worth the pain, cause the chance may never come again" -)
To: Shooter 2.5
I LOVE that map! (But not being stuck in Kali.)
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posted on
01/11/2004 5:07:21 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
When Jeff[jdege] first made the moving GIF map, I used to stare at it for minutes at a time. There were so many changes made in the last 19 years. I remember when Florida enacted their law and I lived in Tennessee at the time. The CCW laws seem to stop the handgun bans that were popular during the 1980's.
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posted on
01/11/2004 6:41:16 PM PST
by
Shooter 2.5
(Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
To: Shooter 2.5
I lived in FL in the 80s and left just in time to miss the CCW! Now I live in Kali, go figure!
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posted on
01/11/2004 11:31:17 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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