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New Bid Fails To Raise Beagle (Mars)
Ananova ^ | 1-9-2004

Posted on 01/09/2004 8:30:20 PM PST by blam

New bid fails to raise Beagle

Scientists say two further attempts to contact Britain's Beagle 2 Mars probe have failed.

The craft's mothership, Mars Express, flew over the landing site at 12.50pm yesterday and 1.27pm today but heard no signal.

Mars Express was in its most sensitive listening mode. Hopes of finding the lander, which has been missing since Christmas Day, are now fading fast.

More passes will be made tomorrow at 2.04pm and on Monday at 2.02am.

Story filed: 18:10 Friday 9th January 2004


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beagle; beagle2; bid; fails; mars; new; raise
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Does not look good for the Beagle.

Meanwhile, 'Spirit' is stuck in the 'mud'...and, Opportunity is in-bound with it's Mars landing scheduled for, 1-24-2004.

1 posted on 01/09/2004 8:30:21 PM PST by blam
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2 posted on 01/09/2004 8:32:32 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: blam
"Beagle - phone home."
3 posted on 01/09/2004 8:33:06 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: William Creel
Visually or electronically (by radio, for telemetry, etc)?
5 posted on 01/09/2004 8:36:58 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: William Creel
Recently, there were visual images taken of craft that had landed there previously (through the use of Mars orbiting satellite) - I assume that the same techniques could be used to view either Beagle or the debris field that resulted from a muffed landing ...
7 posted on 01/09/2004 8:47:55 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: William Creel
There will be other attempts to contact Beagle 2 over the next several days. Besides more radio contact attempts, another method will be photo-recon to search for the location of the rover and/or parachute on the surface using the high-res camera in the Mars Express orbiter. They also intend to use a Mars Express instrument to search for ammonia in the area of the landing zone because the air bags protecting Beagle 2 are filled with ammonia. I find it especially interesting that one step in the attempt will involve cooperation with the JPL MER team. The Beagle 2 team will ask JPL to command Spirit to transmit briefly on a frequency that Beagle 2 uses while a European radio telescope listens. That will confirm if it’s a viable search method for Beagle 2.
8 posted on 01/09/2004 8:48:12 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: blam
I heard the Brits made the Beagle 2 lander out of "fiberboard" (cardboard) to save project costs. Anyone else hear this?
9 posted on 01/09/2004 8:50:18 PM PST by Hiwayman
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"That will confirm if it’s a viable search method for Beagle 2."

Interesting test...I'm sure our guys are glad to help.

10 posted on 01/09/2004 8:54:20 PM PST by blam
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"I heard the Brits made the Beagle 2 lander out of "fiberboard" (cardboard) to save project costs. Anyone else hear this?"

I don't know but, I trust their scientists decisions.

11 posted on 01/09/2004 8:57:06 PM PST by blam
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If it does the job, there's no reason not to.
12 posted on 01/09/2004 8:59:38 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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Meanwhile, 'Spirit' is stuck in the 'mud'..

You are kidding of course ???

13 posted on 01/09/2004 9:00:58 PM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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To: blam
Please give us an update on "Spirit".
14 posted on 01/09/2004 9:03:46 PM PST by mickie
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The Beagle 2 team will ask JPL to command Spirit to transmit briefly on a frequency that Beagle 2 uses while a European radio telescope listens.

What - the 'radio telescope' used by the Europeans isn't "frequency agile" and able to be tuned to the 'downlink' frequency used by Spirit - thereby validating the 'radio path' from Mars back to Earth?

15 posted on 01/09/2004 9:04:07 PM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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"Please give us an update on "Spirit"."

Go here for an update.

16 posted on 01/09/2004 9:20:37 PM PST by blam
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"You are kidding of course ???"

No...it's their word, 'mud.' After they had crunched up the air bags they noticed a patch of something like 'folded mud' underneath. Now, I don't think anyone thinks it's mud but, no-one can explain what it is and why it looks like mud.

17 posted on 01/09/2004 9:28:11 PM PST by blam
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What - the 'radio telescope' used by the Europeans isn't "frequency agile" and able to be tuned to the 'downlink' frequency used by Spirit - thereby validating the 'radio path' from Mars back to Earth?

It's my understanding the purpose of the test is to simulate as closely as possible, using Spirit, the signal frequency and strength they expect the Beagle 2 presents from the surface of Mars (if it's transmitting) and try to detect it with the radio telescope on Earth. It's an attempt to remove as many variables from the test conditions relative to the real objective and prove that the problem rests with the Beagle 2 rover and not with the search methodology.

18 posted on 01/09/2004 9:30:49 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: blam
I saw those pics on a thread and I wondered if it would build up on the tires and cause a problem.

Of course they could have found the source of Play Doh...
19 posted on 01/09/2004 9:36:58 PM PST by tubebender (Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you see...)
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"I saw those pics on a thread and I wondered if it would build up on the tires and cause a problem."

Yeah, me too. Someone said that it would not be rolling fast enough to sling the 'mud' all over.

20 posted on 01/09/2004 9:47:39 PM PST by blam
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