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MSNBC ^ | 01/09/2004 | Martin Wolk

Posted on 01/09/2004 3:05:21 PM PST by Whatodo

Friday’s disappointing employment report did little to derail forecasts of strong growth this year but gave fresh ammunition to critics who complain the Bush administration has failed to achieve its chief economic goal — job creation.

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The unemployment rate fell in December to 5.7 percent, its lowest level in nearly a year – but only because 309,000 people dropped out of the labor force, according to government data. Employers added a scant 1,000 jobs last month, a barely perceptible number in an economy of 130 million workers and far short of the 127,000 net new jobs analysts had been expecting. The Labor Department also revised away 51,000 jobs that had been reported in previous months.

“It’s a lousy report any way you look at it,” said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor’s Corp. “Employment has been up five months in a row, but all five months together add up to about one normal month of growth. We’re just not getting any kind of job growth despite the strength we’ve seen in GDP.”

The figures were especially disappointing considering the surge in gross domestic product that began in mid-2003 and more recent evidence of growth. Weekly claims for new unemployment benefits have fallen to their lowest level in three years, and surveys have led analysts to predict that businesses at last are boosting hiring after the long jobless recovery.

“The popular, man-in-the-street, ground-level view of the job market is that is still stinks,” said Bill Cheney, chief economist for John Hancock. “All of us forecasters were getting a bit complacent, and it turns out the man in the street was probably right.”

President Bush and others in the administration chose to focus on the improved unemployment rate, which has fallen from a peak of 6.4 percent in June.

Bush, speaking to a forum on small business, said economic indicators were “very strong” and called the drop in the unemployment rate a “positive sign.”

Labor Secretary Elaine Chao acknowledged that job creation last month was “less robust than forecasters projected” but said Bush’s economic policies are working. In a written statement, she called for congressional action on Bush’s “six-point plan” to boost employment by streamlining government regulations, limiting “excessive” lawsuits and extending tax breaks that are scheduled to expire.

Stock prices fell and bonds soared, sending market interest rates sharply lower. The weak demand for workers is keeping wage inflation in check and makes it even more likely that the Federal Reserve will not begin raising short-term interest rates until next year, analysts said.

GUIDE Key economic indicators

Click an indicator name to learn more Period Latest Prev. • Consumer Confidence Dec.* 91.3 92.5 • Retail sales Nov.* 0.9% 0.0% • GDP Q3* 8.2% 3.3% • ISM Index Dec.* 66.2 62.8 • Factory Orders Nov.* -1.4% 2.4% • Unemployment Rate Nov. 5.9% 6.0% • Employment situation Nov.* 57,000 137,000 • Consumer inflation Nov. 1.1% 1.3% • Housing starts Nov.* 2,070,000 1,980,000 • Home sales Nov.* 7,142,000 7,459,000

back to list | next CONSUMER CONFIDENCE Recent figures Dec.* 91.3 Nov. 92.5 Oct. 81.7 Sept. 77.0 Aug. 81.7 July 77.0 June 83.5 May 83.6 April 81.0 March 61.4 Feb. 64.8 Jan. 03 78.8

What is it? Consumer confidence is considered important because consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity. The monthly Conference Board survey is one of the two most closely watched indicators of sentiment. Based on a mail-in survey sent to about 5,000 households. Results are converted to an index and expressed in comparison to the 1985 average of 100. Source: The Conference Board

back to list | next RETAIL SALES Recent figures Nov.* 0.9% Oct. 0.0% Sept. -0.3% Aug. 1.0% July 1.4% June 0.9% May 0.5% April -0.3% March 2.3% Feb. -1.4% Jan. 03 0.4% Dec. 1.4%

What is it? A broad measure of consumer spending trends. Includes sales of motor vehicles, clothing, food at both grocery stores and restaurants, electronics, building materials drugs and other items. Expressed as a percent change from previous month, adjusted for seasonal variations but not price changes. Source: Census Bureau

back to list | next GDP Recent figures Q3* 8.2% Q2 3.3% Q1 2003 1.4% Q4 1.4% Q3 4.0% Q2 1.3% Q1 2002 5.0% Q4 2.7% Q3 -0.3% Q2 -1.6% Q1 2001 -0.6% Q4 1.1%

What is it? The gross domestic product is the broadest measure of the economy, comprising the value of all goods and services produced in the United States. It is reported quarterly with frequent revisions. Generally expressed as a percentage change from the previous quarter in "real" or inflation-adjusted terms. Economists presume real GDP is capable of growing at an annual rate of about 3.5 percent over the long term. When GDP declines over a sustained period of time the economy is considered to be in recession. Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis.

back to list | next ISM INDEX Recent figures Dec.* 66.2 Nov. 62.8 Oct. 57.0 Sept. 53.7 Aug. 54.7 July 51.8 June 49.8 May 49.4 April 45.4 March 46.2 Feb. 50.5 Jan. 03 53.9

What is it? The first major indicator reported each month, considered a reliable assessment of how the manufacturing sector is performing. Based on a survey of executives done by the Institute for Supply Management, formerly known as the National Association of Purchasing Management. Responses are compiled and reported as an index number. A reading above 50 percent indicates the manufacturing sector is expanding, while a reading below 50 indicates it is shrinking. Source: Institute for Supply Management

back to list | next FACTORY ORDERS Recent figures Nov.* -1.4% Oct. 2.4% Sept. 1.4% Aug. -0.3% July 2.0% June 1.9% May 0.3% April -2.6% March 1.5% Feb. -0.5% Jan. 03 1.6% Dec. 0.3%

What is it? Data on new orders for manufactured goods, adjusted for seasonal variation, offer a good indicator of the manufacturing sector's health, closely watched because it is the most volatile part of the economy. Expressed as percent change from previous month. Source: Census Bureau.

back to list | next UNEMPLOYMENT RATE Recent figures Nov. 5.9% Oct. 6.0% Sept. 6.1% Aug. 6.1% July 6.2% June 6.4% May 6.1% April 6.0% March 5.8% Feb. 5.8% Jan. 03 5.7% Dec. 6.0%

What is it? One of the best known and most politically powerful economic indicators, the rate is calculated from a monthly survey among a sample of about 60,000 households. The rate is adjusted for seasonal variations, but unlike most economic statistics it is never revised. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next EMPLOYMENT SITUATION Recent figures Nov.* 57,000 Oct. 137,000 Sept. 99,000 Aug. 35,000 July -57,000 June -83,000 May -76,000 April -22,000 March -151,000 Feb. -121,000 Jan. 03 158,000 Dec. -211,000

What is it? Represents the month-to-month change in jobs on payrolls of the nation's business, government and non-profit establishments. Generally considered a more accurate indicator of labor market health than the unemployment rate. Analysts estimate the economy should add about 150,000 jobs monthly to keep up with the nation's growing work force. Based on a sample of 300,000 establishments employing nearly a third of the nation's workers, the figure is adjusted for seasonal variations and frequently revised. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next CONSUMER INFLATION Recent figures Nov. 1.1% Oct. 1.3% Sept. 1.2% Aug. 1.3% July 1.5% June 1.5% May 1.6% April 1.5% March 1.7% Feb. 1.7% Jan. 03 1.9% Dec. 1.9%

What is it? The most widely known and used measure of inflation, the Consumer Price Index is based on the price of a "basket"of goods including food, beverages, fuel, medical care and clothing. Value refers to year-over-year change in "core" prices, excluding volatile food and energy categories. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next HOUSING STARTS (seasonally adjusted annual rate) Recent figures Nov.* 2,070,000 Oct. 1,980,000 Sept. 1,931,000 Aug. 1,831,000 July 1,890,000 June 1,844,000 May 1,745,000 April 1,627,000 March 1,742,000 Feb. 1,640,000 Jan. 03 1,828,000 Dec. 1,815,000

What is it? A good indicator to assess demand for housing and construction industry health. Represents the number of new residential buildings, including single-family and multifamily homes, where construction was started. Expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. Construction was started on 1.7 million new residential structures in 2002, the highest level since 1986. Source: Census Bureau.

back to list | next HOME SALES (seasonally adjusted annual rate) Recent figures Nov.* 7,142,000 Oct. 7,459,000 Sept. 7,817,000 Aug. 7,650,000 July 7,275,000 June 7,030,000 May 6,931,000 April 6,854,000 March 6,538,000 Feb. 6,795,000 Jan. 03 7,029,000 Dec. 6,973,000

What is it? One of the bright spots of the economy in recent years, driven at least in part by historically low mortgage rates. Figure represents the sum of new and existing single-family home sales, expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. In 2002, a record 6.5 million homes were sold. Sources: National Association of Realtors, Census Bureau

* preliminary figures • Printable version

Critics of Bush’s economic policy, including his Democratic rivals for the presidency, were quick to pounce on the report as evidence that last year’s huge tax cut package had failed to achieve the White House’s stated goals for job growth, which called for 510,000 new jobs in 2003. The economy has lost 2.3 million jobs over the past three years including 74,000 jobs last year.

“With the recovery that we’re supposed to be in, adding 1,000 jobs is pathetic,” said Democratic hopeful Richard Gephardt, campaigning in New Hampshire. “It’s nothing short of pitiful and pathetic. This is truly a jobless recovery.”

"Democrats need issues, and this number today keeps the issue alive for them," said Greg Valliere, chief strategist for Schwab Washington Research Group. "It's probably Bush's greatest domestic vulnarability, that job growth just doesn’t pick up."

To be sure, nobody was predicting the economy was in any danger of reversing course, and some analysts suggested the latest payroll numbers may be understating the strength of the labor market, partly because of seasonal factors related to sluggish holiday hiring.

Retail employment fell by 38,000 last month, suggesting that the usual seasonal layoffs in January also will be lighter than typically seen in past years. That could result in a spike of new jobs next month, said Tony Crescenzi, chief bond market strategist at Miller Tabak & Co.

“We’re not in a downward spiral or anything like that,” agreed Cheney. “I don’t think there’s anything else that would suggest the economy is heading down again. I don’t even think the job market is heading down again.”

But he said the failure of the economy to create job raises the risk that economic models, including those used by the White House, seriously underestimate the growth rate needed to boost employment. And he said the weak job growth is likely to shake confidence and make the economy more vulnerable to an external shock.

Crescenzi and some others said the payroll numbers are failing to capture a surge in self-employment and small-business hiring that show up in the separate household survey, which is the source of the unemployment rate.

But Wyss said such structural changes are not necessarily to the benefit of workers, because they imply less job security and fewer fringe benefits.

“You can look at the payrolls or the household survey and they will give the same message -- that this recovery is still a fairly slow-motion event in terms of job creation,” said Ed McKelvey, senior economist at Goldman Sachs. “Companies are being extraordinarily careful in how many people they put on the payrolls.”

John Silvia, chief economist at Wachovia Securities, said the weak job growth is mixed news for financial markets, suggesting the consumer spending will be weaker than expected but profits could be stronger because of surprising productivity growth.

He said Democrats are justified in challenging President Bush to do more to generate job growth rather than simply cutting taxes and waiting for the business cycle to take over.

“From my personal perspective, you’ve turned the corner” from an economy that was losing jobs to one that is adding jobs, he said. “But it’s not like a Nascar race where you’ve turned the corner and are accelerating out of the turn. You’ve turned the corner and you’re still going at the same mopey speed.”


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To: BlessedBeGod
You betcha. That RAT troll won't be back again. At least under this nickname. LOL We fixed 'em. :)
81 posted on 01/09/2004 7:53:08 PM PST by NRA2BFree (They know we own the guns. Now, all they've gotta do is figure out how to take them away from us!**)
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To: Lead Moderator
Damn! I need a new scorecard. I've got too many partially erased checkmarks on this one . . .
82 posted on 01/09/2004 8:00:02 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Whatodo
There is a new franchise opening up that is sure to provide
the desired economic stimulation and job growth!


83 posted on 01/09/2004 8:10:57 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Beck_isright
I have to agree at least in part, based on the little I have seen since I started reading Free Republic regularly. I hope I don't get banned for saying so! But it seems to me that the folks who are kicked off are not necessarily out to antagonize people -- they simply post an alternative viewpoint without making snide comments about the views expressed in the article or the person who wrote them.

I hasten to add that I am a conservative myself, a Republican in an academic environment no less, and I know full well what it is like to experience the onslaught of political correctness day after day afer day. It just strikes me that this forum might be more informative if the ideas of the "other side" were presented in a semi-serious manner, and countered with a similar degree of levity.

I hope I am not overstepping my bounds as a "newbie" here; I just thought I would share this observation and see what other subscribers to this site have to say about this. Thanks.
84 posted on 01/09/2004 8:18:04 PM PST by Karyn M. PhD
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To: Karyn M. PhD
"...and countered with a similar degree of levity."

Whoops, I meant gravity, not levity. Guess that goes to show you...
85 posted on 01/09/2004 8:26:17 PM PST by Karyn M. PhD
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To: Whatodo

CONSUMER CONFIDENCE

Recent figures

 Dec.* 		91.3 
 Nov. 		92.5 
 Oct. 		81.7 
 Sept. 		77.0 
 Aug.  		81.7 
 July 		77.0 
 June 		83.5 
 May 		83.6 
 April 		81.0 
 March 		61.4 
 Feb. 		64.8 
 Jan. 03 	78.8 
 

What is it?

Consumer confidence is considered important because consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity. The monthly Conference Board survey is one of the two most closely watched indicators of sentiment. Based on a mail-in survey sent to about 5,000 households. Results are converted to an index and expressed in comparison to the 1985 average of 100.

Source: The Conference Board


RETAIL SALES

Recent figures Nov.* 0.9% Oct. 0.0% Sept. -0.3% Aug. 1.0% July 1.4% June 0.9% May 0.5% April -0.3% March 2.3% Feb. -1.4% Jan. 03 0.4% Dec. 1.4%

What is it?

A broad measure of consumer spending trends. Includes sales of motor vehicles, clothing, food at both grocery stores and restaurants, electronics, building materials drugs and other items. Expressed as a percent change from previous month, adjusted for seasonal variations but not price changes.

Source: Census Bureau


GDP


Recent figures
 Q3* 		 8.2% 
 Q2 		 3.3% 
 Q1 2003 	 1.4% 
 Q4 		 1.4% 
 Q3 		 4.0% 
 Q2 		 1.3% 
 Q1 2002 	 5.0% 
 Q4 		 2.7% 
 Q3 		-0.3% 
 Q2 		-1.6% 
 Q1 2001 	-0.6% 
 Q4 		 1.1% 

What is it?

The gross domestic product is the broadest measure of the economy, comprising the value of all goods and services produced in the United States. It is reported quarterly with frequent revisions. Generally expressed as a percentage change from the previous quarter in "real" or inflation-adjusted terms. Economists presume real GDP is capable of growing at an annual rate of about 3.5 percent over the long term. When GDP declines over a sustained period of time the economy is considered to be in recession.

Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis.


ISM INDEX

Recent figures
 Dec.* 		66.2 
 Nov. 		62.8 
 Oct.  		57.0 
 Sept.  	53.7 
 Aug.  		54.7 
 July  		51.8 
 June  		49.8 
 May  		49.4 
 April  	45.4 
 March  	46.2 
 Feb.  		50.5 
 Jan. 03 	53.9 

What is it?

The first major indicator reported each month, considered a reliable assessment of how the manufacturing sector is performing. Based on a survey of executives done by the Institute for Supply Management, formerly known as the National Association of Purchasing Management. Responses are compiled and reported as an index number. A reading above 50 percent indicates the manufacturing sector is expanding, while a reading below 50 indicates it is shrinking.

Source: Institute for Supply Management


UNEMPLOYMENT RATE

Recent figures

 Dec.  		5.7% 
 Nov.  		5.9% 
 Oct.  		6.0% 
 Sept.  	6.1% 
 Aug.  		6.1% 
 July  		6.2% 
 June 		6.4% 
 May 		6.1% 
 April 		6.0% 
 March 		5.8% 
 Feb.  		5.8% 
 Jan. 03 	5.7% 

What is it?

One of the best known and most politically powerful economic indicators, the rate is calculated from a monthly survey among a sample of about 60,000 households. The rate is adjusted for seasonal variations, but unlike most economic statistics it is never revised.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.


EMPLOYMENT SITUATION

Recent figures

 Dec.* 		   1,000 
 Nov.  		  43,000 
 Oct.  		 100,000 
 Sept. 		  99,000 
 Aug.  		  35,000 
 July  		 -57,000 
 June  		 -83,000 
 May  		 -76,000 
 April  	 -22,000 
 March  	-151,000 
 Feb.  		-121,000 
 Jan. 03  	  158,000 

What is it?

Represents the month-to-month change in jobs on payrolls of the nation's business, government and non-profit establishments. Generally considered a more accurate indicator of labor market health than the unemployment rate. Analysts estimate the economy should add about 150,000 jobs monthly to keep up with the nation's growing work force. Based on a sample of 300,000 establishments employing nearly a third of the nation's workers, the figure is adjusted for seasonal variations and frequently revised.

Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.


HOUSING STARTS

(seasonally adjusted annual rate)

Recent figures

 Nov.* 		2,070,000 
 Oct.  		1,980,000 
 Sept.  	1,931,000 
 Aug.  		1,831,000 
 July  		1,890,000 
 June  		1,844,000 
 May  		1,745,000 
 April  	1,627,000 
 March  	1,742,000 
 Feb. 		1,640,000 
 Jan. 03 	1,828,000 
 Dec.  		 1,815,000 

What is it?

A good indicator to assess demand for housing and construction industry health. Represents the number of new residential buildings, including single-family and multifamily homes, where construction was started. Expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. Construction was started on 1.7 million new residential structures in 2002, the highest level since 1986.

Source: Census Bureau.


HOME SALES

(seasonally adjusted annual rate)

Recent figures

 Nov.* 		7,142,000 
 Oct. 		7,459,000 
 Sept.  	7,817,000 
 Aug.  		7,650,000 
 July  		7,275,000 
 June  		7,030,000 
 May  		6,931,000 
 April  	6,854,000 
 March  	6,538,000 
 Feb.  		6,795,000 
 Jan. 03 	7,029,000 
 Dec.  		6,973,000 
 

What is it?

One of the bright spots of the economy in recent years, driven at least in part by historically low mortgage rates. Figure represents the sum of new and existing single-family home sales, expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. In 2002, a record 6.5 million homes were sold.

Sources: National Association of Realtors, Census Bureau




These numbers look pretty good. The trends are upward.

gitmo
86 posted on 01/09/2004 8:45:41 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Karyn M. PhD
I hope I am not overstepping my bounds as a "newbie" here; I just thought I would share this observation and see what other subscribers to this site have to say about this. Thanks.

Hello and welcome. From my observations, almost all who get zotted are repeat offenders, and the moderaters have a good idea who they are. I've been quite critical of the Bush administration, but I've been here a few years and have never had a problem with the moderators. I also give the Bush administration credit where it's due.

87 posted on 01/09/2004 9:22:53 PM PST by Moonman62
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To: Jim Robinson
spoonfork2000 (a DU member) aka DUVisitor, FrenchStinkyYuck, TrueAmurican, ProudCon1776, Brainshrub, Masked Conservative, et al, banned (again).

Any possibility that early on in a Zotted thread this tidbit could be inserted so as to answer the "Why did that happen?" and eliminate the redundant questions and "outrage"?

I know you're busy...   Thank you for all you do.

88 posted on 01/10/2004 5:39:40 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Karyn M. PhD
"I have to agree at least in part, based on the little I have seen since I started reading Free Republic regularly. I hope I don't get banned for saying so! But it seems to me that the folks who are kicked off are not necessarily out to antagonize people -- they simply post an alternative viewpoint without making snide comments about the views expressed in the article or the person who wrote them."

You have to understand that JR and the team track user IP addresses. These trolls are idiots from DU and some other boards which have posted very anti-FR, anti-conservative articles in the past. Whenever a user with that IP address creates a new user name it sets of the warning bells and then FR nukes the trolls.
89 posted on 01/10/2004 5:58:57 AM PST by Beck_isright ("Deserving ain't got nothing to do with it" - William Money)
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To: will1776
And I missed ALL of them, which stunk.
But it was fun to see the after effects.
90 posted on 01/10/2004 8:51:56 AM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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To: GirlShortstop; Jim Robinson
I agree. When you get this information, please put it at the top of the article.
91 posted on 01/10/2004 12:58:32 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democratic Party: Without an electoral mandate for almost 28 years.)
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To: Lead Moderator
It would seem that it's been a slow past two days.
I haven't seen any trolls posting stupid stuff to generate a zot thread.
Of course, I'm no mod, so I don't see the stuff behind the scenes.
Have the trolls gone on strike?

92 posted on 01/11/2004 3:44:59 PM PST by Darksheare ("The voices in my head won't play with the voices in your head anymore.")
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To: Karyn M. PhD
Whoops, I meant gravity, not levity. Guess that goes to show you...

We often do both, and sometimes simultaneously. ;^)

Welcome to FreeRepublic.

I've been here for years, but I'm still trying to figure out if it was spoonfork2000 or WhattoDo that got the zot.

93 posted on 01/11/2004 4:10:03 PM PST by e_engineer
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To: Whatodo
Shouldn't new Freepers be given at least a seventy-two hour probation period before being allowed to post a thread? I would tell "Whatodo" what to do, but it would involve something obscene.
94 posted on 01/11/2004 4:32:39 PM PST by Dionysius
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To: Lead Moderator
Think what you want!

Gee thanx!

95 posted on 01/11/2004 4:41:11 PM PST by breakem
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To: Darksheare
No, the guys I refer to as the daily trolls seem to have taken a break. Let's see if it is permanent. Thanks, LM
96 posted on 01/11/2004 5:37:27 PM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Lead Moderator
Let's hope so!
Welcome.
97 posted on 01/11/2004 5:48:41 PM PST by Darksheare ("The voices in my head won't play with the voices in your head anymore.")
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