Posted on 01/09/2004 12:56:02 PM PST by JohnGalt
LOL! Here come the liberal compassionate konservatives.
A government that cannot or will not control it's borders and protect it's sovereignty from millions entering illegitimately, will itself eventually become illegitimate. Bet the rent.
FWIW, I don't know of anything specific, but when he was making his speech on this, I opened my eyes wide when I heard him say ... and some of them will even want to become American citizens!
I would bet my pension that if this thing goes through, there will be lawyers in court claiming if they put in the time as workers they should be citizens. And I'll bet they will get it. FWIW.
Agree. He hit it right in the ten ring.
MEXICO CITY – Mexican migrant workers sent more money to their home country than either foreign investors or tourists this year, according to central bank figures released this week, but some here aren't sure whether the increasingly migrant-dominated economy is a good thing.
Since the central Bank of Mexico's current recording format began in 1980, remittances have never before exceeded both tourism and foreign investment over a six-month period.
Remittances began to gradually outstrip tourism starting in 1998, although some recorded "tourism" is actually Mexicans bringing rather than sending money to family members.
This year, recorded remittances jumped an astonishing 29 percent in the first half of 2003 to US$6.3 billion, outstripping the US$5.2 billion sent in direct foreign investment.
That's second only to income from oil exports, at more than US$8 billion, and well ahead of tourism at US$4.9 billion.
Although part of the surge was attributed to higher migration rates, better monitoring and a campaign to make money transfers cheaper and safer also resulted in more money being tracked as it crossed the border. The use of money orders increased by 104 percent in the first half of 2003 over the same period of 2002, while hard-to-count cash transfers dropped by 28.6 percent.
Roberto Madrazo, leader of the former ruling Institutional Revolutionary Party, or PRI, criticized the government for migration, depicting it as a forced and painful diaspora caused by a lack of job creation at home.
"This is a clear indication that we are on the threshold of a social crisis," he said.
Yeah, it would be fun to see whether the fly by night operation would first crash under the weight of the Buchaninite masses or go broke first.
Congress are the ones that are supposed to be responsible for developing laws in this country. Why are they now applauded for stalling when doing (or not doing) something is their responsibility?
No, but you can pretty easily understand where Will would stand if he were alive today. Shoulder to shoulder with Buchanan. He was scheduled to meet with other Conservative Democrats, to plan ways to fight Roosevelt's great turn to the Left, when he was killed in an accident.
Pat is guilty only of understatement, here. The President & Rove's real failure--and it underpins their shallow analysis, because they do not even see the real issue--is to firmly identify with their own people. Before you even address policy questions, you need an orientation. They show no basic American orientation. Their proposals are all driven by economics or political expediency--however flawed their perceptions of both--but there is no real ethnic pride or identification reflected in any of them.
One can embrace the idea of international friendship. One can applaud efforts to make peoples friendlier to one another. One can encourage commerce and trade, work for world peace and understanding, etc., etc.. But none of such concerns relieve anyone of the fact that they have roots. None of us sprang full grown, armed and shield in hand from the head of Father Zeus! Americans have roots; and most of us have loyalty to the ongoing American society; the descendants of those who built America. No where in Bush's policy on immigration, does one gather any sense at all, that he has such identification. Pat Buchanan does, and that makes him head and shoulders a better man than the President.
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It is because the current influx is illegal and it just happens to be the overwhelming proportion of them happen to be Mexican. One can stick their head in the sand but the facts remain.
The illegal part makes a difference to Pat. It makes a difference to me too. No, I did not vote for Pat. I voted for Bush, much to my regret.
Morally repugnant?
Breaking the law is "immoral", but is it not immoral to rip people from the jobs they hold by their own sweat and send them away merely because we didn't stop them at the border years ago?
That was OUR failure, not theirs.
As for it being unfair to immigrants who "play by the rules". It's high time we changed those rules and allwed all comers into this country.
One of the few welfare programs I'd like to see is free English classes for all of them.
Without immigrants, I think it's been shown that we'd already have a negative population growth. If you want to see a breakdown in society, just wait till there's not enough young people to support the old. And even worse, check out what will happen as companies stop growing. The result would be economic disaster.
We NEED people coming into America. Either that, or pursuade more folks to have more babies.
The men told police they killed Owen because they thought they had hit her with their pickup truck and didn't want to get into trouble.
Marcelino-Quintero told police he bought the .22-caliber pistol used in the killing for $80 from a man on Thompson Place a few weeks before the shooting, detective Marvin Rivera said yesterday.
The men worked odd jobs for subcontractors and were in the country illegally, Rivera said.
The detective said he did not know how long the men had been in the country."
In the Gordon County town, police said Jerry William Jones, 31, abducted two daughters and their half sister after killing his three in-laws and one of his daughters.
I'm not sure, but comparing bad apples between a sample size of ~300 million and 8-14 million might be counter productive.
I think you forgot that those who died in the trailers weren't loaded in at the point of a gun held by someone wearing an official US uniform while the News @ 11 camera crew documented it. Or that another camera crew will be waiting to document the unloading into the tented refugee camp out in the Sonoran desert. Or the powerful stories like the undocumented Colorado honor student who Tancredo dropped the dime on... Imagine how the story would play out--university student ripped from a college dorm in Denver & plunked into the hopeless despair of a scorpion infested tent out in the desert. When the stories become personal, they become powerful and I don't think you understand that.
You're saying the problem began Jan of 2001?
Get real.
If you are right you are still wrong I guess.
My apologies if I misinterpreted your post. There are enough real issues here that I don't want to blur the important ones with my misunderstandings.
Though I still think my comments concerning Buchaninites apply in general...
You've been talking out of both sides of your mouth all thread. If you're really as desirous as you say you are of coming up with a realistic solution, you might want to start showing a little more intellectual honesty.
Presidente Fox has already said it yesterday! We want more! We want more!
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