[narby]

So why do you not recognize Pres. Bush's responsibility in this? He appointed James Ziglar to head the INS who refused to deport arrested illegals.

You're saying the problem began Jan of 2001?

Get real.

[inquest]

Anyone at all can see that that's not what he said, and that furthermore you're trying to deflect attention away from what you said, namely that Bush simply "inherited" the problem from prior administrations.

You've been talking out of both sides of your mouth all thread. If you're really as desirous as you say you are of coming up with a realistic solution, you might want to start showing a little more intellectual honesty.

[raybbr]

The first thing they'd do after they get fired is burn down their old employer.

I guess they aren't as wonderful as you would have us believe. Even you are admitting they are criminals first and foremost.