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Confronting the immigration dilemma
OC Register ^ | 1/9/04 | Op/Ed

Posted on 01/09/2004 10:48:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:06:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush's new proposal on immigration has at least one virtue. It represents an effort to confront - and begin an open discussion about - an immigration system that is clearly not working. Whether you think immigration should be more restricted or less restricted, the fact that 8 million to 12 million people are in this country illegally suggests strongly that the current system is broken.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; confronting; dilemma; immigration

1 posted on 01/09/2004 10:48:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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3 posted on 01/09/2004 10:51:34 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Confronting the immigration dilemma"

Deport, plain and simple. Problem solved!
4 posted on 01/09/2004 10:51:36 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: NormsRevenge
President Bush's new proposal on immigration has at least one virtue. It represents an effort to confront - and begin an open discussion about - an immigration system that is clearly not working.

Well duh...exactly what it was intended to do...Bush stated clearly that Congress would hammer out the details of any such plan.

I can't believe so many people have forgotten a basic fact that I learned in elementary school...the President does not make law, Congress does! Bush's plan will be in the cross-cut shredder the minute it hits Congress. There are currently two bills being considered, one in the Senate and one in the House:

House Version Sponsored by Tom Tancredo of CO

Senate Version Sponsored by John Cornyn of TX

Tancredo's plan puts the military on the border until we can train enough border patrol, increases the border patrol and detention centers, ends the "anchor child" problem, increases penalties and bonds and much more. We need to forget about Bush's plan and get on the Tancredo bandwagon by writing our Congress-critters!

5 posted on 01/09/2004 10:52:25 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
Tancredo's plan puts the military on the border until we can train enough border patrol, increases the border patrol and detention centers, ends the "anchor child" problem, increases penalties and bonds and much more. We need to forget about Bush's plan and get on the Tancredo bandwagon by writing our Congress-critters!

Agreed.

6 posted on 01/09/2004 10:56:46 AM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Principled conservatives need not apply...we're all centrists now. Shut up & pay your taxes.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The system was broken on purpose. Police not allowed to ask someones status, welfare agencies not allowed to ask or report on someones status, etc...
7 posted on 01/09/2004 10:57:57 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: ravingnutter
You are correct BUT for a so called "conservative" to espouse some of the things he did speaks volumes to me. His whole speech was nothing but "gimmes" It didn't even touch upon what to do about the current crisis! this is dumbfounding. Thank goodness Tom Tancredo understands!
8 posted on 01/09/2004 11:12:51 AM PST by AbsoluteJustice (By the time you read this 100 other Freepers will have posted what I have said here!)
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To: AbsoluteJustice
You are correct BUT for a so called "conservative" to espouse some of the things he did speaks volumes to me. His whole speech was nothing but "gimmes" It didn't even touch upon what to do about the current crisis! this is dumbfounding. Thank goodness Tom Tancredo understands!

Bush merely put out a general plan to get the public debate started, knowing it would get torn to shreds in Congress, he even stated Congress would hammer out the details. I do, however, believe he was pandering to the Hispanic population in an election year. His plan won't be approved as is...he knows that...but the LaRaza's of the nation can't say he didn't put forth a plan that they could agree with. Therefore, while I am not happy with the "strategery", it is a win-win situation for him.

9 posted on 01/09/2004 11:35:33 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
knowing it would get torn to shreds in Congress

He signed the CFR knowing it would get torn to shreds in Congress Supreme court.

Been there done that.

10 posted on 01/09/2004 11:51:29 AM PST by itsahoot (The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
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To: NormsRevenge
Would it be economically productive or even feasible to find and deport 8 million people, most of whom are doing work somebody is willing to pay them for?

It would be easier to encourage fewer of them to come by removing incentives such as subsidized education, health care, food, utilities, etc. and by discouraging employers from violating employment laws.

As long as we keep the incentives for illegal aliens to come and stay here, more will continue to stream across our borders (even if we could magically deport the 8-15 million illegal aliens here today).

11 posted on 01/09/2004 3:50:46 PM PST by heleny (No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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