Rush: Like It or Not, Bush Leads

Rush Limbaugh ^ | January 8, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

[onedoug]

Thanks for posting.

I tend to agree.

[Tamzee]

Rush wouldn't be doing Bush any favors that he didn't believe in. He doesn't pull punches when he disagrees with the actions of a Republican politician.

Rush also makes a great point that Bush could have just ignored the immigration issue if he wanted to protect his re-election chances.

[Belial]

I believe that. Seriously, I do. I think Bush is doing what he thinks is right.

You're a good-hearted man. BTW, do you believe Bush when he repealed the steel tarriffs, saying they had accomplished their objectives?

Never mind that he repealed them just as Europe was ready to slap trade retributions on Florida and other politically sensitive states.

I really believe that it takes a good-hearted man to look at politicians and see compassion.

I'd like to believe Bush went after Saddam because of his crimes against humanity. But we sent Uzebekistan $500 million last year. Their tyrant has an estimated 6,500 political prisoners. Hundreds are tortured to death every year, sometimes by boiling them alive.

I am more cynical. I don't believe Bush sat down, searched his heart, and came up with this plan.

I think Karl Rove dropped by, brought some graphs showing the rise in Hispanic migration and this plan came out of the meetings.

You've probably noticed that Bush and every other national politician get up and mangle a few sentences in Spanish when it seems expedient.

[somemoreequalthanothers]

I agree, but do you remember the "Contract with America" days when the Republican led congress wanted to abolish a couple of agencies? It may be several years and more terrorism before the sheeple start to get in tune with reality.

[Pubbie]

"He evidently got clued in to the substance of Bush's proposal and revamped his initial kneejerk reaction."

What is Bush's position on Chain Migration aka Family Reunification?

Is he leaving that up to the Congress to sort out?

[ItsMyVoteDammit]

My God, it is working! I would not have believed how many people here are now posting "President Bush is a Leader" "Bush Leads".

Rush knows his audience. I stand corrected for my sarcasm and for my belief we were all thoughtful voters.

[jrawk]

Nope,

He is spot on.

Bush believes a man is defined by his actions, not his words. This is not a 4 yr old problem, nor is it one he has been working on short term. He has been working on it for 12 yrs. It sticks in his craw.

And what an icky issue to take on. Immigration is a hot potato anyway if you are conservative. But this has runners prying into Homeland Security, Social Security, Welfare Reform, Racism, and Class Warfare.

And still he takes it on! Why?

Well it is a major issue that's why, and when he a sees problem status quo is just not an option.

And he will get my vote for it, here's why.

Despite the hype stories about Social Security fraud, and abuse of the medical system, the majority of this issue can be summed in a brush pile. The one behind my house.

You see it is about a few truckloads worth of 2 yrs. accumulation of yard debris thrown off by my acre of landscaping and 20 trees. All I needed was to have it loaded up into a trailer so I can haul it. No room for machinery, not even a bobcat, so it needed to be done by hand.

I took a long look at it and decided this legal american wasn't going to do it. So I went to the next best legal worker. Some neighborhood kids. Offered them $8 an hour. Well I guess X-Box is a lot more fun, they quit the job afer an hour.

So I turned to a temp labor joint, a call, paperwork and $12.50 an hour later and I had a legal citizen, but none to excited about the work. After working a bit I could see he would not finish in one day. Many breaks, few trips to the trailer. Fired.

I gave up on legal work and went down to the local "corner" where illegals hang out for a job. I told the gentleman what I had to do and offered $8 an hour. Nothing of it. He preferred to wait, turns out the rate that day was going to be $15.00 an hour.

I aggreed he was done in 6 hours. I paid him $100 even for the hard work.

He wasn't here to steal a job from some american. He got a job no american would do properly! Not only that but demand was so high for his services he could bring $15.00 an hour.

It is very prevelant in the Southwest, but really it is nationwide, from Minnesota to well... Texas.

Maybe speeding up naturalization, or reducing regulation, or tort reform, or protectionism, or erecting a 13 foot wall on the Rio Grande might be more palatable options to us right wingers. But politically they will never happen. The Bush proposal is a step to the right, and a step in the right direction.

Don't forget the Reagan Amnesty. Bringing productive, hardworkers with a good value system to the U.S. is a Republican Value! These workers are everything your average Joe Conservative is. Independant, Sweat Equity, Family Values, Meritocracy, God Fearing, and he probably roots for the Cowboys too!

Our party should welcome them!

For Pete's Sake we are the ones hiring them to begin with, they may as well vote republican!

-- lates
-- jrawk

[Wolfstar]

...people who think some great conservative president will someday ship out everyone who doesn't belong is living a dream

Most people agree the greatest conservative president of the 20th Century was Ronald Reagan. In 1986, he and the Congress granted the first blanket amnesty to illegal aliens in American history. The same people who are on FR these days spewing vitriol at President Bush claim to love President Reagan. But I believe that had there been an FR forum in 1986, these same people would be spewing their bile at President Reagan.

[Cultural Jihad]

I believe that. Seriously, I do. I think Bush is doing what he thinks is right.

Agreed. As Rush points out, there is no fiat here, no executive order, no blanket pardons as Clinton would do. And he is right, too, in the caricature of Clinton being all talk and no action. But it really has nothing to do with Clinton, except in the minds of the left-wing. It's all in looking to fix a serious problem in the best interests of the nation.

[brianl703]

So, your experience can be summed up thus (ignoring the ethnicities of the involved workers, since they don't matter):

The $8/hour worker wouldn't do it.

The $12.50/hour worker wouldn't do it.

But the $15/hour worker would.

Hmmm.......

[Cultural Jihad]

Don't be so pedantic. The President leads, but he is not empowered to write laws. If you think illegal immigration is an important issue, then contact your representatives and let them know how you feel.

[jrawk]

"I think Karl Rove dropped by, brought some graphs showing the rise in Hispanic migration and this plan came out of the meetings. " -- Belial

Really, that sums up Bush's experience with this issue? Rove came up with it. All that time in Texas, and he never realized how important Mexican Citizens really are to the American Economy? You don't think he has actually been thinking about this for a little longer than a week? Like the last 12 years?

He really isn't going far enough in my opinion. Naturalize them! The majority share our values. They are Hardworking, sweat equity, God fearing, meritocracy, family values folks.

They may as well Vote Republican, Republicans are the ones hiring them anyway.

If we kick them out, entire business sectors will suffer dearly.

-- lates
-- jrawk

[Cultural Jihad]

Hyperbole. No one is advocating the breaking of laws, except perhaps those who cheer on border vigilantes when they commit felonies against those they suspect of having committed misdemeanors.

[sinkspur]

You've probably noticed that Bush and every other national politician get up and mangle a few sentences in Spanish when it seems expedient.

If that's what you've noticed, your entire post is suspect.

Bush speaks fluent, almost flawless, Spanish. And has, for nearly 20 years.

You're a cynic about Bush, so you'll swell up over anything he says or does.

[Huck]

Belial, without agreeing or disagreeing with any of your presented facts, I could still say I think that President Bush is doing what he believes is right. I think he may have made his mistake in enacting the tariffs. He may have made some face-saving statements later, I don't know. I don't dispute it.

As for the war, I believe that the President is happy to bring down a brutal dictator, at least under certain circumstances. I mean, if it was as easy as just picking a dictator and going to war, then we could have it over with very quickly. A president with a 4 year term, who will have to campaign to get re-elected, with a House and a Senate and a hostile press to contend with has to set priorities. You can't do it all. Even if you're re-elected, you will not do it all in 8 years.

So why the heck do you think President Bush decided to go to war, along with Britain, Australia, Spain, and some other countries?

[sinkspur]

I stand corrected for my sarcasm and for my belief we were all thoughtful voters.

Ever think your judgment might be clouded?

That's my belief.

[DrDeb]

"I believe that. Seriously, I do. I think Bush is doing what he thinks is right."

I too believe that the President is doing what he thinks is right. From what I understand, he has advocated this policy position since his days as governor of Texas!

[NOTE: While I have my areas of expertise, immigration is not one of them. For this reason, I plan to follow the lead of those I trust and know to be informed on this issue, to include President Bush (former governor of Texas), Newt Gingrich (has conducted much research on the subject), and Rudy Guilliani (who worked on this issue under Reagan). And yes, Gingrich and Guilliani support the President's policy recommendations!]

[nopardons]

Goody...then go vote for Dean, or Clark. Voting for a fringe candidate, or staying home, is the same as voting Dem !

[somemoreequalthanothers]

Of course you're right. Left vs Right is a marathon, not a sprint. We shouldn't be so quick to turn on our own.

[Belial]

Bush speaks fluent, almost flawless, Spanish. And has, for nearly 20 years.

I think you are right about almost everything...but Bush does not speak fluent Spanish. I've heard him attempt to speak Spanish on a number of occaisons. He has trouble making it through the simplest slogans.