Rush: Like It or Not, Bush Leads

Rush Limbaugh ^ | January 8, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

[joesnuffy]

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[Zipporah]

Doesn't matter one whit to me who is in the lead.. my loyalty to the Republican Party or to Bush won't supercede my loyalty to the US...

[Right_in_Virginia]

Surprising read from El Rushbo.

Thanks for posting.

[scarface367]

Rush is definately trying to pull damage control for Pres Bush here.

[Visalia]

Bush leads: "Read my lips. No new illegals."

[Shanty Shaker]

Would a president be able to survive if he deported all illegals?

[Huck]

he's doing what he thinks is right about it

I believe that. Seriously, I do. I think Bush is doing what he thinks is right.

[Dane]

Rush is definately trying to pull damage control for Pres Bush here

Well since you are so clairvoyant, maybe you should take over for Ms. Cleo.

This puts immigration into the debate, call your congressman, I'm not stopping you, but have the debate once and for all. This issue can't be swept under the rug and and you can't wiggle your nose and all the illegals are gone. It ain't that easy, and the less you depend on your knee jerk reactions, the more you maybe can understand that this is a difficult and complex issue.

[Kay Soze]

"I'm going to admit and acknowledge that there's a political component to here to it,"

How will this prgram make the US safer?

"They said only 2,000 agents are available to review the millions of applicants that might be submitted."

""When this country had problems trying to properly identify a few thousand people, how is it going to do the same with a few million?"
The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com

Border authorities fear influx from Bush plan
By Jerry Seper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published January 8, 2004

[ItsMyVoteDammit]

So that is the spin. That is how they intend to get all of us back in the fold.

Swing the watch bob to and fro in front of our eyes and say 'see, President Bush is a strong leader, are you not proud of him'. Swinging back and forth, repeating again and again, and hope we become mesmerized and do not see the swarm of illegals crossing our unprotected boarders.

[arasina]

Thanks for the transcription! This is one of the things I love about Rush Limbaugh. He is constantly asking people to consider, to ponder, to THINK about things.

He's right about President Bush, too. Like it or not, he's a leader. I happen to a voter who likes that leadership. It takes guts to take on an extremely sticky issue like illegal immigration. (If Dubya were to take one of those trendy personality tests, his "type" would probably be called "Gutsy Leader.")

And now, instead of reacting emotionally as I normally would (and as someone who is opposed to illegal immigrants getting drivers licenses and free healthcare that I can't get as an American citizen) at least I'm going to stop and THINK about what President Bush is proposing.

[somemoreequalthanothers]

I'm as right wing as most anybody, but the people who think some great conservative president will someday ship out everyone who doesn't belong is living a dream. There is going to have to be some compromise, and Bush may be trying to get it done before it could be worse.

[Owen]

Bush leads. Look at our extremists swaggering petulantly and threatening to elect a Democrat just because they, who want generally for little government action in society, are angry that Bush didn't announce *more* government enforcement action in society.

[Visalia]

Would a president be able to survive if he deported all illegals?

Would a society survive if all laws are broken?

[cyncooper]

Rush is definately trying to pull damage control for Pres Bush here.

No. He evidently got clued in to the substance of Bush's proposal and revamped his initial kneejerk reaction.

[NutCrackerBoy]

On executive issues, Bush uses his executive power, and does what he thinks best. This, arguably, is a legislative issue. There has got to be debate and a consensus in the country to make the borders more airtight. And then there can be a bipartisan effort to do it.

If it is done down party lines, that will forever establish the Democrats as the party of demographic dominance, therefore dominance plain and simple. This move of a Republican president to punt on immigration arguably keeps alive the two-party system. It enables immigrants to vote Republican.

[WOSG]

Leadership would also be coming out in favor of really fixing the immigration mess... he could propose these reforms, why not?

Enforcement:
1. Abolish the EOIR, it is a failure of an agency; abolish the BIA that
handles immigration 'appeals' as well. This system is not designed
to deport aliens that deserve to be deported, it's designed to frustrate
the enforcement of immigration law. Michelle Malkin suggests in her
book "Invasion":
"Finally, Attorney General John Ashcroft should abolish the Executive Office
for Immigration Review and the Board of Immigration Appeals and transfer
their functions to existing law enforcement officers within the immigration
bureaucracy. ... Restoring integrity to the immigration process will require
closing the loopholes and black holes into which so many fugitive absconders,
criminal aliens, and unwelcome guests have disappeared. " - Michelle Malkin
INS and Border Patrol Counsels could replace this byzantine process
and administrative removal orders could simply be given administratively.
Replace the agencies with law enforcement agents and lawyers who prosecute
and win deportation cases rather than drag them out.
Use the powers of Article III section 2 to repeal through law
the ability to appeal deportation orders to death (and to the
Supreme Court).
2. Fund the FBI's enforcement of immigration law so that it is a priority for them.
3. Increase funding and manpower of U.S. Border Patrol;
assign US. military troops to help the Border Patrol regain control of our border.
4. Increase funding to enforce laws against employing illegal aliens
5. Create verifiable documentation for use in employment that end documentation
fraud. Set up a national database for document verification so document
fraud is tracked down. Require employers to verify employment and hold
employers responsible for hiring illegal aliens.
6. Pass laws and use verifiable documentation to end immigration benefit fraud.
It is rampant (see the GAO, http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d0266.pdf)
- give incentives and rewards to private citizens who turn in illegal aliens
who are subsequently deported.
" One simple change could put teeth into the law. Employers should be required to
confirm that the Social Security number presented by a worker has in fact been
issued to that worker. A computerized database, much like the nationwide
instant-background check used to verify gun buyers, could handle that job easily.
Such a database already exists, but it is seldom used. " - Jay Bookman
7. Increase alien detention space so that aliens ready for deportation
are held in detention and not released to the streets where they merely
evade deportation.
8. Abolish 245(i) and other provisions of stealth amnesty that have been put
there through law or court rulings. Criminal aliens should be deported
without exceptions. For example, a loophole that gives women citizenship
or LPR status for "spousal abuse" is an open invitation for fraud.
Many men's lives have been destroyed by fraudulent allegations designed by
illegal aliens to gain citizenship. End that loophole in 204(a)(1)(A)(iii)
of the immigration act.

Changing the incentives for illegal aliens and immigration:
1. Granting automatic citizenship to the children of illegals born in
the US must end. Children born here of foreigners should not automatically
become US citizens, unless their parents are *legal* residents of this country.
2. End all federal public assistance to non-citizens except emergency health care
Abolish requirements that hospitals must serve all those, including
illegal aliens, who show up at emergency rooms.
Per federal law (Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act),
no one can be turned away for basic emergency services. Amend it
so labor (and health) services are not a Federal requirement unless the woman
can show legal residency status.
Having a child is not a life-threatening condition.
3. Abolish the adult parents and siblings of immigrants from
getting in on family sponsorship and getting at the head of the line.
End chain migration.
4. Defund federal bilingual education programs.
5. Prohibit affirmative action benefits for non-citizens

[demkicker]

Frankly, I don't see what all the fuss is about unless the illegals who are here and don't follow the rules are not rounded up and deported.

Guess I just want to be assured that we're not adding to a 2nd tier of illegals ("legal illegals" and "illegal illegals")