DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER

Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

[Missouri]

Why would they be angry?

If I was in a long line, like back in the 1970's gas shortages line at the filling stations, and someone who had not been waiting in line got to pull ahead of others who had been waiting and got to stay there, well I'd be kind of mad.

[jpsb]

Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the US Army and maybe the US Navy from domestic law enforcement not protected the borders. I am not in favor of an armed border our military has better things to do. I see no reason why the US Mexican border can't operate like the US Canada border. Just implement my two suggestions.

[Poohbah]

Do two things and you will end the problem, punish and I mean really punish employers that employ illegals and deny illegals socail services (not emergency medical). My two cents and there is no damn reason these two things can't be done.

When the first soccer mom gets nailed for hiring day labor, you're going to have a PR disaster on your hands.

People are against illegal immigration in the same way that they're in favor of motherhood and against sin. It's a generically accepted ideal.

Doing what you describe would inconvenience the American public, and that will go over about as well as a brick balloon. Generic ideals tend to fall apart when unpleasant specifics come up.

Welcome to America, where everyone wants to go to heaven, and nobody wants to buy a ticket.

[kevao]

Yes, if it's not done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in US law regarding national defense.

So there's no problem then with using the military to secure our borders, as long as it is done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in the law.

[jpsb]

When the first soccer mom gets nailed for hiring day labor, you're going to have a PR disaster on your hands.

Punishment should fit the crime mom pays a $100 fine. No PR disaster here. Wal-mart pays a million dollar fine. No PR diaster there either. You asked for solutions I am giving you solutions that will work.

[m18436572]

This is pure, speculative, b.s.

No kidding, and, as I've heard soo many times before...
OH NOOOO! WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !
if we gotta pay an extra 10 cents for a head of lettuce.

[Poohbah]

So there's no problem then with using the military to secure our borders, as long as it is done in the way Congress has provided for elsewhere in the law.

Uh-huh. And Congress hasn't provided for doing this, and will not do so, unless you can convince them to reactivate the draft to get the needed manpower.

Oh, and you'd have to draft all women of child-bearing age, too. Not to guard the border--to produce the next generation of troops to guard the border with, and the next generation of taxpayers to pay for all of those troops.

[Poohbah]

Punishment should fit the crime mom pays a $100 fine. No PR disaster here. Wal-mart pays a million dollar fine. No PR diaster there either. You asked for solutions I am giving you solutions that will work.

In other words, you'll give them a lighter slap on the wrist than they get for speeding.

Which means that you'll get about the same level of legal compliance that the speed limit laws get.

[kevao]

Uh-huh. And Congress hasn't provided for doing this,

And precisely how has the Congress provided for Air Force fighters to intercept commercial airliners entering our air space?

[jpsb]

Do my two things

1) punish and I mean really punish employers that employ illegals
2) deny illegals social services (not emergency medical).

And you can have (and should have) an open border with Mexico.

[Poohbah]

And precisely how has the Congress provided for Air Force fighters to intercept commercial airliners entering our air space?

The National Security Act of 1947. Note that there isn't a "round up illegal immigrants" clause.

[jpsb]

re mom

I make it more expensive for her to hire an illegal then to hire a teen ager. Works every time.

[Poohbah]

I make it more expensive for her to hire an illegal then to hire a teen ager. Works every time.

She'll probably hire an illegal alien teenager--they don't usually have fifteen piercings on their face and tongue.

[kevao]

I'm in complete agreement with you on those points. Unfortunately, people like Poohbah won't allow you to check on whether employers are employing illegals. It's too intrusive. You need probable cause. And a search warrant.

I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restaurant.

[jpsb]

The put the military on the border arguement ain't gonna fly. Poobhah is right about that, we don't have the man power and we really don't want an armed border with Mexico. Look at my two suggestion, they will work!

[Poohbah]

I'm in complete agreement with you on those points. Unfortunately, people like Poohbah won't allow you to check on whether employers are employing illegals. It's too intrusive. You need probable cause. And a search warrant.

Yup. What a concept, government obeying the restrictions placed on it.

I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restaurant.

Those who would trade a little libery for security deserve--and shall receive--neither.

[kevao]

The National Security Act of 1947. Note that there isn't a "round up illegal immigrants" clause.

Nice try, but there's no "intercept commercial airliners" clause, either.

[Poohbah]

Nice try, but there's no "intercept commercial airliners" clause, either.

Actually, there is. Check out the Air Force's missions.

[jpsb]

I'll be sure to ask for a search warrant next time the health inspector comes around the restaurant

hahaha, you own a restaurant?

Cool, I own a bar, and I get inspected all the time. What's one more (NIS) inspection?

[kevao]

The put the military on the border arguement ain't gonna fly. Poobhah is right about that, we don't have the man power and we really don't want an armed border with Mexico.

We don't need one million men on the border. We have technology to compensate. The aggessive use of just 200 drone planes would provide sufficient 24 hour/day recon of the entire Mexican border.

Check the American Border Patrol web site and see what they are able to accomplish in conjunction with the Border Patrol using just a few of these unmanned planes.