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"You see, much of this thread was an expression of admiration for the man, Brett Favre, not the football player."

The interesting thing is that if he had been Brett Favre, the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons or Brett Favre, the backhoe operator from Mississippi... you wouldn't care one way or the other. But it is because he is Brett Favre, the quarterback of the Green Bay Packers, that is why all the cheeseheads have turned this thread into a "Go Pack Go" thread, changing the direction of a well-intended thread.

So, now that your hero crashed and burned, extinguishing the hopes and dreams of cheeseheads everywhere, you feel compelled to lash out at people who are not as impressed with your vision of what a hero and sports legend should be. Now, it may be admirable that Brett has worked hard and is currently successful in pulling himself up from the grips of alcoholism and drugs, but to me, that is not a hero. A hero is a dad who never stooped to that level of depression to start with. I'm not ready to honor a man that has given in to alcohol and drugs until after they honor the man that has stayed clean and sober all his life. Pal, that may play in Wisconsin and the new ESPN/gangsta NFL, but not here.

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising after you fall." How many fathers have fallen but yet have remained heros in the eyes of their children, especially if they've overcome whatever it was that caused them to fall? Would you abandon a friend if he had had the same problem as, say, a Brett Favre? Or would you cut your friendship loose and say, "sorry pal, but you don't measure up to my standards"? And if I know my fellow Packer fans, we'll get over what happened tonight. It'll be disappointing for awhile but what's done is done. So be it.